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[Vicious_2003]

Its been a while sence i had the nerve to start a new post after that whole racism thing i was responsible for. But ive finally decided to give it another go. I want to know how you guys feel on this issue. Seeing as how the RIAA is suing random file sharers for all they have. Personally I have mixed feeling on the issue. I mean, on one hand it is pretty much indirect steeling but on the other CD's are over priced (Who wants to pay 13 bucks for an album with one or two good songs ?). I just dont think its right for these multi billion dollar recording labels to be making a hissy fit and throwing lawsuits around attacking poor college students who dont have a dime to thier name just for sharing some songs. Id like to see just how much revenue theyve lost due to file sharing so far. What difference does it make weather they earn a trillion or a billion dollars, its still more than they deserve or could ever spend. Anyway, im not going to get to far into what I feel untill i get some feedback from you guys. So..what do you think ? Do you file share now ? Will you stop because of these lawsuits ?

[goodman]

Ive stopped, i took Kazaa Lite off of my Hard Drive, i have about 1500 songs and some movies on my HD its all good as far as im concerned, and someday i will grab another file or two when the time is right...

[Infernal Mass]

the RIAA can kiss my ass. I'm still downloading music like it's going out of style.

[Chara]

I dont care about it. First of all I dont share music because it slows down my 56k connection considerably. So there's no way they'll bsut me for sharing.

Also if by some strange way I get caught, I can just remove all the music on my computer. Simple as that. How can they sue if thier is no evidence? Due to the anomynity (or however you spell it) of the internet they cant be positive it was my exact computer that did it. As I mentioned before I'm on a 56k and on dial up connections IP addresses are shared. They'll have to sue everyone who shares that IP and some people could be innocent. So I'll countersue them for accusing be of doing a crime and invading my privacy! (I dont know the legal terms for them )

Finally, there is no way they can sue everyone that's sharing. It would cost too much money on thier part. They are only doing this to scare people into stopping sharing. For some people it worked.

Some laws have to be broken here as its illegal to get someone's personal info from an ISP, I think.

[goodman]

Oh, and the main reason i took Kazaa Lite off my HD is i wasnt really using it anyway, im gonna listen to what i have since ive downloaded so much and still have tons to listen to...

[DSgamer]

BAH P2P SHARING IS 4 N00BS, PLUS, I USE IRC

[Hero]

I'll download whatever the damn hell well I please. All the tax money they take from me. "Your taxes pay for the cops and firefighters." The only time you ever need either of those, they don't make it in enough time to make up for their cost.

They overcharge for the CD's/ DVD's that we buy anyway. I can understand the price on games. In fact, I would understand if the more time consuming productions, cost 69.99 instead.

13.99 to 18.99 for a CD is ridiculous, so music, I feel, is an exception. Plus, I'm severely pissed off about the U.S. putting region-free blocks on DVD's. RIAA, if you can read this, you can slap my two lower parts right on your chin. Hell if you want to play hardball, I can go around and recommend that everyone download movies and not even attend the theater. You want to keep U.S. DVD's in the U.S. only, then fine, you can keep your damn U.S.-made movies to yourself, and make profit off of your cousins and uncles.

They put limitations on things they shouldn't, and it's stupid. They put protection on CD's so you can't rip them into your computer. If you purchased it, then you should have the right to listen to it however the damn hell you want. If I pay 18 dollars for a damn cd, then I should be able to make copies of it, rip it to my computer or whatever, as long as the only people listening to it, are in my household. If I pay 37 dollars for a DVD from China, I should be able to watch it with the same damn DVD player that I use to watch a DVD that I paid 18 dollars for from here, (even though American movies cost 16 dollars too much with all the crap movies that are coming out).

Bottom line - If you feel like you're being cheated, then you do whatever you feel you have to do.

[goodman]

Your twenty years old, Hero, how many tax dollars have they taken from you, $100?? You havent even begun, kid, not until theyve taken at least $10,000 a year for ten or more years.

[Nelo]

I couldn't care less about RIAA.

[Jubei]

I used to use mIRC, but its waaaay to slow compared to Piolet P2P

I dont mind DL'in cause if I really want a CD i buy, but the majority of the time I only DL a few songs fron any said album cause the rest are usually crap

[Vicious_2003]

How can they sue if thier is no evidence?

I forget exactly how they do it but they can get print outs of what you have downloaded under your username and its all perfectly legal. Maybe not fair, but legal.

I can see prosecuting dumb asses who burn cds and try and sell them for 5 bucks as if they deserve to get payed for that. It just seems wrong to allow multi million dollar companys to sue working class americans . Its not like these law suits are going to change anything. I dont know anyone who does this instead of buying CD's. I dont buy CD's and even if they could shut down all the file sharing programs (Which they cant) I still wouldnt buy cds because they arent worth the money.

[Hadoken]

I'm not scared of them.. Direct Connect
Direct connect uses hubs, and apparently their not allowed to go in there, so there's no way they can mess with you.
Anyways, if you guys are against pirating and all that other stuff, just get rid of this post, I know some of the staff members arent into that type of stuff said on here.

[Preventer Wind]

I dont mind DL'in cause if I really want a CD i buy, but the majority of the time I only DL a few songs fron any said album cause the rest are usually crap

Exactly. If I see a cd I really like I'll buy it. But I am not going to buy a cd if there is only one or two songs I like on it. It's not worth buying. I think of it as sampling the selections. In fact about half the songs I have dloaded I have on cd. But I know some of you don't like emulation. I don't see how that is any different.

[goodman]

Guys, i have so much music on my HD right now, the last thing i need to do is download some more. In time and yeah whatever the situation is, its no biggie. Ive got probably 2000 plus hours of music between my home cd's and whats on the HD, there is no hurry, just tons of music to listen to... I just burned a mp3 cd with 126 files of it, with about eight hours of music on it at least...

[Squaredsoft]

The RIAA can kiss my black ass.

First of all, I've never used KaZaA on my computers. I used it at a friend's house, and it takes WAY too many resources to run... Second, I wouldn't be intimidated, anyway. I'd love to see how suing a 16 year old colored kid makes them look.

So, as said by BeetleJuice, I'm downloading like it's going out of style.

[Infernal Mass]

[Bl4ze]

P2P is a very sensitive subject for some people because of the conflict of views over it. For a start, providing you have the right PC and internet connection anybody could be bootlegging the latest Terminator or the latest Christina Aguilera album. But this comes at a high price for some as we all know. But what about the uncopyrighted material that some people download. There seems to be a lot of controversay over copyrighted material but what about uncopyrighted merchandise. If a band doesnt copyright it and somebody likes it, it could be all over the internet in a matter of hours and they can do squat-doodly-nowt about it. Thats the other problem with P2P. There seems to be no attempt at control on any programs such as Kazaa or WinMX. Why dont the authorities do more about it by going to the hotspots getting the fixed IP addresses they can and come down on people ike a ton of bricks if they want more money. But frankly, do they need it? NO. They want more money so they can have more green sticking out of their back pockets while we slave away trying to make ends meat. But hey. They dont care. They got billions. So this is why I'm in support from P2P in one way but not in another.

[Vicious_2003]

They got billions. So this is why I'm in support from P2P in one way but not in another.

Thats how I feel. These scare tactics are accomplishing nothing positive. All they are managing to do is rob lower middle class hard working americans/etc. Ive heard of programs like Itunes that charge for music and that doesent sound like a bad alternative , BUT. Not every song or CD gets licensed to be sold on those kind of programs so whats the point of it if they dont have the new music you really want ?. Im just not into downloading old Christina Agualara songs so i dont think that program would be for me.

[Cannibal Clown]

I need my Kazaa and imesh, without em my world would be much quieter, and more expensive. Over my life time, i have bought one cd, just one. It was a megumi hayashibara cd, that's it. everything else i will download and burn. It's a waste of money for me otherwise. I think i'm close to a thousand files on my pc, and still going. But i also feel that i have a bit more of a reason to p2p, considering a fourth of em are japanese, not going to be buyable where i live.

But yeah, pirating is the way to go, movies, software, and music. God bless the usa, and whoever else i'm getting music from. Thanks all.

[Bl4ze]

I need my Kazaa and imesh, without em my world would be much quieter, and more expensive.

To be frank - exactly. I agree with you there but another thing is that there is a risk involved as people may be monitoring your connection if you have a fast fixed connection. Thats the only way they can really stop people from downloading files really by prosecuting them. Why can't companies not rip away at our savings account instead by punishing us by taking our internet connection away for a brief period. That would be fun becasue then you could go down to a public place and surf away there. But really companies need youre money becasue of this fact.

"I am a big company boss, I have loads of money - oops I spent a £ - secretary, find someone to sue please."

Thats it really.

But yeah, pirating is the way to go, movies, software, and music

I hate to say it but not everything is on Kazaa. Some damn companies are putting these damn bogus songs on now so we cant pirate them. But I heard on the news that some companies are gonna give ups soon and put proper versions of the songs on their websites for a 'cheaper' price. Something like 50p for a song on UK websites. I don't know if thats true but either way, I'd still rather keep my 50p.

Ive heard of programs like Itunes that charge for music and that doesent sound like a bad alternative , BUT. Not every song or CD gets licensed to be sold on those kind of programs so whats the point of it if they dont have the new music you really want ?. Im just not into downloading old Christina Agualara songs so i dont think that program would be for me.

Thats kinda like what I just said only Itunes is supposed to only have older hits. Myabe one day they'll strike some stupid deal with the record companies so we can download the new hits. Anyways, I still can't see them making much money out of that either.

I forget exactly how they do it but they can get print outs of what you have downloaded under your username and its all perfectly legal. Maybe not fair, but legal.

You know thats kind of against privacy laws really isn't it. I mean if somebody had a private life on the intternet and they got to gape over every picture or website you've looked at maybe its time you sued them if they come up against them. Maybe, I dunno. But its still unfair becasue some things you wanna keep anonymoous, like your personal details on the internet - right?


Anyways, just my views - don't shoot the messenger!