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[Vicious_2003]

I just saw on the news that once again The nations largest chain of department stores..Wal-Mart have taken Maxim magazine and a few others off thier shelves for simply showing sexy women models on thier covers. They already refuse to carry certain action figures that have relistic looking weapons packaged with them , Any CD's with warning labels on them, and many more items. What I want to know is why people would shop at a place that basically dictates to thier customers whats morally acceptable and whats not. I would prefer going to a store that showed me ALL of my purchase options and not just the ones that fit thier moral image they are trying to portray. I dont see how they can have this holyer than though attitude when theyve single handedly, and Mercillously run just about every mom and pop store out of bussinus. Ive never shopped at a Wal_Mart because we dont have nay in my area..but if we did id boy-cot it . To hell with any retailer that wants to deny me anything thats as legal as CD's with warning labels

[mark0™]

Wal-Marts really a family store, I have been to a few Wal-Marts but I've never noticed things like that with the Explicit CD's so did they just start it then?

It's kinda stupid, but when the owners are one of the Richest Families in the world I dont think they give a damn about any profit loss from restrictions... if any.

If anybody from UK wonders what Wal-Mart is, its a huge department store in the States, they own the ASDA chain in the UK, and ASDA are similar to Wal-Mart.

[Wicked D]

Yeah it's getting pretty bad, they have edited CD's and refuse to sell some of the newer video games that contain violence, and sex like Dave Mirra BMX XXX but they will sell Vice City. Go figure...

[legion]

Hey, it's their store. They can do whatever the hell they want with it.

Originally posted by Wicked D

...and refuse to sell some of the newer video games that contain violence, and sex like Dave Mirra BMX XXX ...

BMX XXX sucked anyway, so it doesn't bother me. lol

[Vic Viper]

Originally posted by legion

Hey, it's their store. They can do whatever the hell they want with it.

amen.

[Vicious_2003]

So if they suddenly decided they were going to ban anything that was related to asians because of SARS (Just an example) would you say the same. "Oh well its there store let them do what they want". ?. And look at that one big all male golf club that has been in the news...I mean people are protesting because they wont let women in and thats not right...so would you say..hey its thier club they can do what they want ?. My point isnt really that they should be repremanded..Im just wondering why anyone would shop there regularly. I wouldnt go to any stores that denied me acces to CD's and video games.

[Jubei]

lol this wal-mart sounds like a very silly place, oh and a bit of a self contradiction. Why sell a game banned in certian countries, but not a crappy BMXer.

I think your wal-mart would be the in the same vein as our Tesco's, and they sell all the action fiqures, CD's and V-Games under the sun. Will it not eventually come back to bite them when cause of thier ethos ppl start to shop else where?

[Preventer Wind]

So if they suddenly decided they were going to ban anything that was related to asians because of SARS (Just an example) would you say the same. "Oh well its there store let them do what they want". ?. And look at that one big all male golf club that has been in the news...I mean people are protesting because they wont let women in and thats not right...so would you say..hey its thier club they can do what they want ?. My point isnt really that they should be repremanded..Im just wondering why anyone would shop there regularly. I wouldnt go to any stores that denied me acces to CD's and video games.

Yes...I would say the same thing. It is still their store. You don't have to shop there. And as for the golf club (Augusta National) it is also their choice to be open to men only. Now if you people paid attention to the Masters there were about 50 people protesting it. 50! Not a whole lot of women care.

As for Wal-Mart it is the best department store ever. Better then the Super K's and Meijers of the World. (There is one in Bowling Green and they just built one in Toledo somewhere fyi) The great thing about the place is that when you go to one they carry some local High School teams and all the colleges and pro teams from that state and surrounding states. Their prices are low and how can you not like the smiley face guy?

I dont see how they can have this holyer than though attitude when theyve single handedly, and Mercillously run just about every mom and pop store out of bussinus. Ive never shopped at a Wal_Mart because we dont have nay in my area..but if we did id boy-cot it . To hell with any retailer that wants to deny me anything thats as legal as CD's with warning labels.

Mercilessly ran them out? Come on, they are business (I don't know what a bussinus is ) There are plenty of other places to go to get your rap music and your magazines.

[Vicious_2003]

And as for the golf club (Augusta National) it is also their choice to be open to men only

Denying women entrance is flat out wrong. More men are in control of golf clubs than women because women in the work place arent given the same opportunitys as well as educationally (I can find and post stats to back that up if neccesary. Its a FACT that for every 1.00 $ a man makes a women makes 74 cents). For that reason men own the VAST majority of golf clubs and definately the better ones such as Augusta . For that reason it isnt right to say look women you have to join a lower quality club because were men and we own the better ones. Who cares how many are protesting it....denying even one women is WRONG. Untill things are evened out wich they probably never will be They should allow women into ALL golf clubs. Its no worse than denying blacks. And anyone who would support wall-Mart by shopping thier after they ban anything even remotely asian is a racist in my book(That didnt and wont happen its just the example I used) ...if your not a part of the solution your part of the problem.

I don't know what a bussinus is

Oh yes I miss spelled a word...how funny .........

There are plenty of other places to go to get your rap music

Ahem...just rap eh...is that all that has the warning labels ? . Much of the rock music I like carrys those labels

As for Wal-Mart it is the best department store ever

Thats what us on earth call...just an opinion. I havent shopped there and never will so I cant judge the quality of the store but quite frankly I dont care. Ill just stick to the mall

There are plenty of other places to go to get your rap music and your magazines

So they force you to go elsewhere for that...hmm that shows a whole lot of concern for thier customers. Im just saying it isnt Wal-Marts place to dictate morals...it isnt illegal and as many of you said..you dont mind that they do it...I just think its WRONG

Mercilessly ran them out? Come on, they are business

Ok so I over sold that one a bit. But they did run alot of places out of business.

[legion]

Thats what us on earth call...just an opinion. I havent shopped there and never will so I cant judge the quality of the store but quite frankly I dont care. Ill just stick to the mall

I don't really think it needs to be said, but I'll say it anyway: This entire thread is "just an opinion."

And as far the 'would you say that about the golf course' thing: I haven't really done a lot of research on the subject, mostly becuase I don't like golf, or care, but if it's privatly owned, then yeah, I would. They can do whatever they want with their golf course, just like I can do whatever I want with the computer I'm typing away on. Simple because I own it.

And why do you care so much about a store that you've never even been to (or, at least, been to more than once)? Like it was said above, the place is marketed as a family store - just look at the advertisments to figure that one out.

Im just saying it isnt Wal-Marts place to dictate morals...

Nor is it your place.

No store is ever going to be exactly how you want it, unless you're the one running it, of course. That's just the way the world turns. Not a lot people can do much about the whole ideal of freedom of choice.

edit: grammer sucks.

[Preventer Wind]

Yes Augusta National is a private club. So therefore they can allow whoever they want in. Whether it's right or wrong is not the question here. The question is if it's legal. And it is. I mean if you want to get deep into the topic why do we need bathrooms for men and bathrooms for women? Why do they have WNBA and NBA? Why can't I join the girl scouts?

And as for your figures, they are totally irrelevant. Why you ask? Because it takes a lot of money to own a golf club. The numbers you pulled up are for the average worker. Not for the upper class.

Oh yes I miss spelled a word...how funny .........

Hate to burst your bubble but you also misspelled misspelled, their(7x), access, realistic, holier, any, boycott, opportunities, necessary, definitely, until, which, carries, a lot, and mercilessly. Not to mention forgot to punctuate a lot of things.

And as for people who would shop at a store that stopped carrying things because of a certain race that does not make the shopper racist. For some people that might be the only place they can go because there may be no store near or maybe they don't have a car. It wasn't the customers decision to ban certain things.

I don't understand why you think they are dictating morals. They have decided not to sell things for certain reasons. Be it violence, sex, or any other reason they have given. They are simply saying we do not approve of this. They are not MAKING their customers not buy these but are simply making it harder.

[ssjtrunks13]

I had bought The MArshall MAthers unedited from there one year and then the next when I went to get a LImp Bizkit CD I didn't knwo they didn't have unedited CDs and I accidentally bought an edited one. The only reason I would go there myself now is if they ahd a video game I can't find elsewhere.

[Vicious_2003]

Hate to burst your bubble but you also misspelled miss spelled, their(7x), access, realistic, holier, any, boycott, opportunities, necessary, definitely, until, which, carries, a lot, and mercilessly. Not to mention forgot to punctuate a lot of things

Quite simply I dont give a shit what I misspelled. So why are you harping on it ?. If I really cared at all id spell check it, but clearly I dont . Wonder why you do so much ?

Whether it's right or wrong is not the question here

Yes...that is the question...that always was. I simply wondered if people thought it was right or wrong for them to pull things off thier shelves and dictate morals to their customers.

The numbers you pulled up are for the average worker. Not for the upper class

The uper class is DOMINATED by men...so thank you for proving my point for me

Preventer...you compare the situation in agusta to the boyscouts and Public restrooms ?. Wow...talk about BAD comparisons. Im saying it isn't right for Agusta because their is a vast difference in prestige between most women's clubs and Agusta. And the only reason thats so is because women haven't been given the same opportunities as men. What the hell do bathrooms and boy scouts have to do with anything ? [/QUOTE]

They are not MAKING their customers not buy these but are simply making it harder

Oh yeah I forgot..not only are they dictating morals...they are doing a disservice to there customers....thanks..I almost forgot that

It wasn't the customers decision to ban certain things.

Exactly.....shouldn't it be up to the customer what he can buy and not the damned executives of Wal-Mart ?

And as for people who would shop at a store that stopped carrying things because of a certain race that does not make the shopper racist

Again...if your not a part of the solution your part of the problem. If you were against the killing of animals would you buy a real Mink coat. And if Im against racism I wouldn't go to a store that promoted it (Once more That hasn't happened and Im not saying it will)

I don't really think it needs to be said, but I'll say it anyway: This entire thread is "just an opinion."

Your right it DIDNT need to be said...but thanks that might not have been obvious enough for some people

They can do whatever they want with their golf course

I find it sad that soo many of you think its ok for sexism to exist. That its ok for them to do, and I quote "Whatever they want". Im against anything that denies ANYONE based on Ethnicity, gender, or race. What reason would anyone have for denying people based on that except for prejudice. (That excludes religious gatherings for obvious reasons)

And why do you care so much about a store that you've never even been to

Ive never been to Iraq yet I care about what goes on there. I bet there are alot of places you haven't been to that you have commented on so what is your point ?.

Whether it's right or wrong is not the question here. The question is if it's legal

Ok so we should all just going around not thinking of right and wrong and its ok if what we are doing is legal. I would hate to live in a world like that

Nor is it your place

Of course its not my place to dictate morals...who said it was ?. I dont really understand how anyting youve said makes sense in relation to my argument . Im not trying to tell you how you should feel..im just explaining how I do. If the moderators went around deleteing a buncha posts becasue they werent family orientated enough would that be ok with you just because they own the place ? Please enlighten me

What really worries me is if Wal-Mart continues to grow and expand as it is. Eventually there banning of certain items is going to hurt the sales of Said items. What if they stop making magazines the way they want and have to confine them to Wal marts standards in order to sell there. And the same goes for movies....it isnt Wal-Marts place to decide what their customers should be able to purchase (I said THERE customers so dont reply by saying you can go somewhere else, whos going to make 2 separate trips for a magazine ?). And dont worry Preventer Ill spell check this one as not to upset you.

[mark0™]

Well If one shop decides to sell Bongs, Pipes and any other drug related item and Wal-Mart say they arent gonna supply them are you gonna take a fit about it? dont think so.

At least they are taking items away which the general public would seem unfit for the average under 18. It's not like they are denying them something drastic like by Asain Products because of the SARS commotion. Its reasonable. Get Over It.

And a Private Club is called Private for one reason, they are allowed to chose members, its not Public.

So What if women cant get in, do you think they would want to join if the members dont want them in? Just some feminists letting of some steam in my opinion.

They are not Dictating anything, its their store, their rules. Its not as if Wal-Mart is the first place you would go to if you were only interested in buying CD's and Magazines.

[BlackThornn]

Originally posted by Vicious_2003

Denying women entrance is flat out wrong. More men are in control of golf clubs than women because women in the work place arent given the same opportunitys as well as educationally (I can find and post stats to back that up if neccesary. Its a FACT that for every 1.00 $ a man makes a women makes 74 cents). For that reason men own the VAST majority of golf clubs and definately the better ones such as Augusta . For that reason it isnt right to say look women you have to join a lower quality club because were men and we own the better ones. Who cares how many are protesting it....denying even one women is WRONG. Untill things are evened out wich they probably never will be They should allow women into ALL golf clubs. Its no worse than denying blacks. And anyone who would support wall-Mart by shopping thier after they ban anything even remotely asian is a racist in my book(That didnt and wont happen its just the example I used) ...if your not a part of the solution your part of the problem.

The problem is people imposing their will upon others. It's called freedom, folks. As long as people aren't using government funds and aren't hurting others they are FREE to be racist, sexist, dumb mother ******s as much as they want to be. Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean I don't think they should be able to do it; same with those Wal Mart *******s. As long as they don't try to put their bible-loving values as law and try to make ME adhere to their restrictions (I do NOT shop at Wal Mart; and never will.) then they should be able to do what they want with their PRIVATE BUSINESS.

[legion]

If the moderators went around deleteing a buncha posts becasue they werent family orientated enough would that be ok with you just because they own the place ? Please enlighten me

Let me repeat it for you: If it's their forum, they can do whatever the hell they want with it. They have it to do with as the please. So, in effect, yes, it would be just fine with me.

Ive never been to Iraq yet I care about what goes on there. I bet there are alot of places you haven't been to that you have commented on so what is your point ?.

I'm just saying that I don't see why you can be so upset about something that really has very little effect on you.
And don't pull that 'it closes smaller businesses' stuff. I work for a small business, and since a Wal*Mart opened in my town (yeah, I know, little town), it's down to half the yearly earnings.
That's what I like to call competition.

[Vicious_2003]

Ok im going to go ahead and stop this thread before it gets out of hand.I started this thread to see what others opinions were. But half of the replyers have just attacked me for having my opinion. Its simple state your opinion on the matter and thats it...dont dog on me for thinking what I do. I realize Im guilty of firing back so Im not playing Mr. innocent but Im done. i wont start any threads any more because I dont want to be attacked like that. But thank you to the people that actualy expressed thier opinions with some class

[Frozen]

I understand you, Vicious. I work for Walmart, and the other day I wanted to buy a head band but an associate told me we do not carry them in the stores since that would "promote gangs".

I could not find it more hillariously gay.

But as many have said, they're free to sell whatever the hell they want. They know that they're losing money through that, though, but it's their choice, there are many other stores you can buy the stuff they don't sell, anyway, I really don't think this is a very important matter to worry about, or at least not yet.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by mark0™



If anybody from UK wonders what Wal-Mart is, its a huge department store in the States, they own the ASDA chain in the UK, and ASDA are similar to Wal-Mart.

wal-mart bought asda out, if im right, the biggest wal-mart in the world is in Manchester, if im right its just called wal-mart super centre, with ASDA in small letters.

When I go wal-mart (I like to say asda though) there are glamour models on the front of magazines, Why dont they take shot gun shells off the shelfs instead?

[Vicious_2003]

Heh thats another good point...they carry friggin guns but wont allow any sexy magazine covors or weapons packaged with action figures....stinkin Hypocrits