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[nycgamer]

Well, since we're not sodbusting on the ole plains anymore, why do men and women need to get married? In other words, women don't need men to lead full, productive lives and men don't need women to get along either. It's not like in the old Wild West when it was just too hard to survive alone and we needed to populate the new frontier with as many kids as possible. The human population is getting too overcrowded for this planet anyway and there are already too many kids without even a single parent. Most people are too consumed with looks, money and popularity to care about anyone else and then get married to someone on whom they have projected all their own "ideals" that they've learned from the movies. Then, when things get tough, or the person doesn't turn out to be who they'd hoped, they suddenly realize they don't really love that person for who they are and don't have any real reason to stay with them, hence the high divorce rate. I'm not saying I have an opinion about marriage either way - I'm simply stating one side of the argument to see how other people feel about it. Seems like most people do it for one of four reasons:
a. because they think they 'have to' for the tradition of it, or something is wrong with them if they don't, or there's nothing else to do (a lot of small towns are condusive to this), or they want the security
b. status, or tax purposes (some businessmen don't even like their wives - they just get married to benefit their business in some way)
c. money - a lot of women marry a man because he has the money to give them the lifestyle they dream of
d. love - well, of course there are people out there who get married because they actually love each other enough to want to "seal the deal"

So what are your thoughts on the subject?

[Pu the Owl]

I have nothing against those who decide to get married. Anyone has his strong beliefs. I'm not talking about people who get married for interests (I don't even consider them to be married to tell the truth), but I'm talking about the people actually believe marriage means something to them. Anyway, I'm not one of these persons and even if in love with someone, I wouldn't want to get married. I don't think I need the act of marrying another human being to put a "seal" on a relationship or to make it become "official".

[Infernal Mass]

i was just thinking about this..

i've done some research on the Aztec indians and back then marriage was all about mutual interests..I mean two families sharing thier respected resources with one another, thru a mutual bond or pact. That bond was the marriage of a man and woman from both families. Thru it, both families became one entity sharing resources..

I mean that was waay back then, i understand that and all..it was all about survival and resources.

Samething applys today..although not in the same exact sense, and i'm pretty sure it will until the end of time. Love is pretty much there and all..but i think it's more about survival than love.

I mean check out the way it works out..

You go in front of god and vow to love one another right there in a church in front of everyone you both know...Then it's like oh ok shit didn't work out..time to go to court. So we can find out who gets what..and then move on with life.

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digimortal
- I still remain optimistic thru it all though.

[blindman]

Woah, this thread made me think. I got to say...that i never actually thought of something like this but enough with that.

Its true, the world IS gettign overpopulated, and the rate of "Broken Hearts" and >divorces (betrayals) as well as >sleeping with other partners has highened.
This is because either, they loose interest in each other or just want to be the playboys who sleep with everyone (this goes for the last point.
The divorces are for people who cant take it anymore, not only because of hate, but because that person/people in that relationship cant either...pay what they owe, go bankrupt and need to live alone, dont need that other person anymore to go on.

Marriage is sad, its preasssuring, but wont be worrying about that in a long while.

[Sleazy P Martini]

Originally posted by Blindman
Marriage is sad, its preasssuring, but wont be worrying about that in a long while.

Hey Blindman....you have no idea what you're talking about ok? I've been married for 2 years and life is great. Marriage is sad?......No. Being alone is sad.

[Preventer Wind]

The human population is getting too overcrowded for this planet anyway....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Wow. Come on. If everybody just stopped having babies in 100 years there would be not enough people. True there are a lot of people (over 6 billion) but to say no more babies is ludicrous. I mean who passes on the family business? Whose to say there are no other planets to go to? Yeah a bad idea...but then again people thought the sun revolved around the earth.

Divorce is bad. It shouldn't be a reason to stay away from marriage. But it is true that people get married to early because they think they have what they want then something bad happens and before they know it they are single again.

It is true that some women marry for the money. But not a lot. I would say 80% of marriages happen between 2 people that really love each other. In fact it's not like after divorcing both never talk to each other. Sometimes they becomes friends...or acquaintances...usually because of children.

I think that there is a higher divorce rate because women have more say in things then in the past. They can now take action if they are unhappy.

I see no need to get married. If 2 people really love each other there is no need to do it in front a ton of people.

[Redpyramidhead]

I agree with Sleazy. If you are lucky enough to find somebody you have that type of bond with, there is certainly nothing sad about getting married! I also agree with Fortune. If the couple doesn't feel that the label of "marriage" is important to them and can still be happy together, that is fine as well. It is sad when people get divorced, especially when they were never happy together or unhappy together for a long time before seperating for whatever reasons...especially the worst ones...because the nature of human beings can be just as cruel to eachother is it meant to be caring in the beginning. THings happen and no longer work out anymore so much of the time. But, I have thought of this recently. I wondered that, if a couple is lucky enough to have a more mutual divorce or less tragic one, does it really mean all those years they spent together when they were happy weren't worth it? Does it make that time they had together any less special? Of course, that's probably the thinking behind people who don't find it important to get married. It makes it much simpler that way. I don't know. THis subject always makes me think because I have been in love before. I very likely don't know what it's like to be in love to the extent where some people get married for as I look back, but at the time I thought I was enough to take a chance and ask someone to marry me. She said no, and unfortunately we parted ways after that. If you ever ask somebody that question, things have to be more sure and secure in the minds of both partners before you do, or it could be disastrous. I still think about it. She was definately special. I won't rant anymore about that, though.

I am young and I do not have so many of life's answers or wisdom or experience and I am naive in nature. That leaves for a pretty confused heart. The thing that keeps me going is that I'm wise enough to know things will come to me as I get older and I have plenty of time to find the right person.

So my answer is yes and no. Marriage is important to some people and if they find happiness in it it's a beautiful thing. The most important thing, though, is Love between you and your partner.

_RED_ stuff

[Hylas]

Marriage means something for those who strongly believe in it. If you get married only because it's tradition to do so or because it's convenient, no wonder in few years you'll be trying to divorce.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Blindman
Marriage is sad, its preasssuring, but wont be worrying about that in a long while.

You know, I just think your a little kid.

Marrige is diffent to everyone dpending there religion, some people only get married to flash, gold diggers, and stuff like that, when two people love each other and have been together for a resonable time its fine.

[kupoartist]

its whatever you want to make it mean i suppose. for many, marriage isn't such a big deal because the third person involved may not exist (ie. God. or more than one if you're that way inclined). There are of course those who feel they need marriage to keep in good terms with god, but for others marriage is still an important way of commiting themselves to the one they love. All down to the individual(s), just like any of the other beliefs that we hold.

Equality has had an adverse effect on Marriage as well, but quite frankly, Marriage isn't such an important thing that we should give up the better treatment of everyone for it.

[blindman]

Originally posted by dan da man

You know, I just think your a little kid.

I dont know...but its tireying to see 2 threads in a row with your replies calling me a little kid.

[kupoartist]

Originally posted by nycgamer
The human population is getting too overcrowded for this planet anyway and there are already too many kids without even a single parent.

didn't notice this before... so here comes the geographical boredom bit: Whereas the overall world population is increasing, it is only doing in LEDCs (Less Economically Developed Countries). I would say that the vast majority of all those in the forums come from MEDCs (for the simple reason that most LEDCs have 1 computer to every 5,000 people). In MEDCs, for instance, the UK, the population is actually "greying" : ie, there are more elderly people than young people. Consequently, people in our countries should actually be having more children. Because it'll get to the stage where taxes get harsher so that we can pay to keep the elderly cared for by the state (ok... so i'm not sure how Socialist the governments of your countries are). So its important for people to have kids. Whether you honestly believe that marriage is vital for a well structured family is another matter...

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Blindman

I dont know...but its tireying to see 2 threads in a row with your replies calling me a little kid.

Because thats what I think.

[blindman]

Originally posted by dan da man

Because thats what I think.

Anyone else you have called a kid.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Blindman

Anyone else you have called a kid.

Nope just you, no one else on this site posts so childish.

[blindman]

I dont know what your problem is. To tell you the truth i dont give two .
You can have all the go you want, but please... let me post the way i want my posts to look like...and just because you see me one way doesnt mean i am totally.
Talk what you want, say what you want and you let me post what i want.
How about you don't mind what i post and i won't mind what you post for now until you get your ego down.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Blindman

I dont know what your problem is. To tell you the truth i dont give two .
You can have all the go you want, but please... let me post the way i want my posts to look like...and just because you see me one way doesnt mean i am totally.
Talk what you want, say what you want and you let me post what i want.
How about you don't mind what i post and i won't mind what you post for now until you get your ego down.

Am I the one going mad and swearing you need to "ego" down pal.

Seriously I dont mind what you post, but its like if your acting like a little kid all the time, so go to the Nitendo forums, if your always having your little outbursts.

[blindman]

Hehe the nintendo forums. That just proves my point.
Little outburts? i dont "outburst".
I wouldnt outburst to such waste of time because it would only get my concentration down. if you can't tell the difference between yelling out and talking calmly then here is an explanation i thought my 6 year old cousin.

1)i would had been adding !! after every sentence or word.
In every line i would be adding or and
and i only added once.

2)If you want to call somebody names and try to bring them down on a public place, go to a mall and eat a burger infront of a homeless.

3)i prevent myselfs from fighting, specially live (physically) or in any type of way. So i would never start anything...ever.

Now can we forget about this and live on?

[dan da man]

Ofcousre, I do not wish to debate with you any more.

[blindman]

There's a good man.