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Jul 27th, 2002, 02:59 PM | #1 |
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Get it straight
So i'm talkin to my buddy Mena(Zerosniper), and she tells me that you all(The admins), blamed her for starting the whole "banned" status thing. And in addition to that, some of you called her "evil", or something close to that. I also heard that you all sent her PM's, but not to the other 3 people who participated.
Is any of this true? I find it hard to believe, but I want to know what has been going on. She's been a little upset about the whole situation and currently has plans to leave because of it. I'm sure mena doesnt want to leave because of something like this, but it does not sound like you all handled everything in a proper manner. I'm not sure who is right and who is wrong. Which is why i'm starting this thread. Please clear it up, and if anyone has a fault in this, please apologize. And all it basicaly was, was a small joke someone started. I do not know who that person is either. But if everything clears up, I'd appreciate it if we could just put it all behind us and get back to normal. And to not give any harsh punishment for the person who did start it. After all, it was meant to be a joke. A little shocking if you didnt know it was, but nonetheless, a joke.(Which I see has already been taken care of to stop further confusion) So any information would help. Thanks in advance. |
Jul 27th, 2002, 03:22 PM | #2 | |
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Re: Get it straight
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Hadoken, Mena is your friend, and you can defend her, I'd do the same for a close friend. Again: I've never said she started the whole thing and I hope it was only a joke made for fun and not to accuse admins for some choices they made in the last period. I hope you understand my point. Nobody wants those people involved to leave, we only asked them to change the status back to normal and stop the joke. Nothing more. We waited also till today to change the status of other people involved, hoping in a reply we're still waiting. Then we decided to change the status by ourselves, but nobody here is accusing Mena for this joke. If it happened, it's only because the greatest part of people were asking the reason for her ban among the others. And I repeat: we sent messages to other people as well. And sorry if I sound harsh on this point, but you only know the version of the people involved in the joke regarding this question, so you can't say if we handled it right or not. We're not planning to punish anyone, we only wanted everything to come back to normality beause this joke actually caused some confusion among members. I don't find sadistic pleasure in punishing people. Just to make it clear. |
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Jul 27th, 2002, 03:31 PM | #3 |
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... uhmnn... my head still hurts.... well at least I understand now ^_^ : I did actually wonder if it was possible a while back, but decided to give it a miss
I don't think this is the kind of issue people should be overacting about. On either side. Yes it was pretty damn , but for the sake of keeping people from asking silly questions, the moderators were right to put a stop to it.
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Jul 27th, 2002, 03:36 PM | #4 |
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True, work it out, and Mena, your way too important to us, so as a friend and associate, whatever happens, decide to stay. Lets think peaceful thoughts here, and find out that there is a middle road no matter what the thoughts are going on here. Lets have a peace happening here, and find that the answers can be worked through. Trust me, ive been there.
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Jul 27th, 2002, 03:42 PM | #5 |
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Okaaayy...I missed something here..And did Hai just use proper grammar!?
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Jul 27th, 2002, 03:43 PM | #6 |
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I can safely say that none of the staff intended to offend any one. As I told Mena, this was just a joke that got out of hand. Its nice that members are doing things together and making jokes and such, but please try not to offend or confuse people.
We should just put this all behind us and move on.
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Jul 27th, 2002, 03:57 PM | #7 |
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I'm sorry to hear that Mena was in some way offended, but I really can't see the reason. All the ones involved received an e-mail, and anyhow, none of administrators "overreacted". We just asked them to remove the custom title, because people was worried that we were gone mad, banning everybody in the forums. On a note, Mena was the only one to reply, even if all the others received the PM. And hey, I know who started it all, but since that was just a joke, there was no reason to contact just him.
It was a joke, and I've also read the message sent by one of the administrators to Mena in which the terrible word "evil" was. Well the message was friendly, the word was ironic, and in fact was followed by a smile, and adding to that the phrase was something like "hey, who started this evil plan? ^^". I don't know why people can be offended so easily... and what makes me a bit sad, is that many went immediately on the "banned" people's side, thinking that our administrators, all people willing to help other members and constantly working for free on the forums to keep this place nice, could have banned members like Sword4hire and Mena for a joke... |
Jul 27th, 2002, 04:02 PM | #8 |
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That's a pretty mean joke to play on these people guys. Seriously, they work very hard to give you info on games and keep these forums on track, and you did something that could hurt the community, as so it seems. I wasn't here when it happened, but from just reading these, both parties deserve an apology, but what do I know? -.-;;
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Jul 27th, 2002, 04:09 PM | #9 |
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Ok, I was the one, I think, who asked Mena this question yesterday "Who's involved in this evil plan ^^;;?" and yes it actually was an ironic question, just to understand what was going wrong. I don't think this can sound like an offence, don't you think? I talked to Mena too and I explained our reason to her. I don't think she must be upset, because it wasn't our intention to hurt her feelings. It's true: we sent messages also to other people involved in the joke, asking them to remove the status, but Mena was the only one so kind to reply and change it back after a little time. I only counted 3 people involved in this joke, and I don't know if there were others who changed the status before we noticed the whole thing.
Nobody here has to apologize for what happened, because if it's true it was only a joke, there's no reason to keep on talking about it now that everything is back to normal. I like people joking around here, but I do think that this joke was not so fair towrds administrators who were accused of banning people without motivations. And I agree with Harry's post. It's sad that someone was not even interested in listening to administrators' reasons, judging them only after having heard a little part of this story. |
Jul 27th, 2002, 04:12 PM | #10 | |
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By the way... since that was just a little joke and nobody wanted to offend anyone... I guess there is no need for apologies... It's just strange that Mena could be offended by the messages of the administrators... also considering that we didn't blame the ones who did the joke (actually, it made us laugh), we simplly asked them to change their custom status because the other members were thinking we banned them and filled our boxes with messages. As the artist said "for the sake of keeping people from asking silly questions, the moderators were right to put a stop to it". |
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Jul 27th, 2002, 04:22 PM | #11 |
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What if I ban myself? That would be a cool joke
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Jul 27th, 2002, 04:24 PM | #12 |
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Heh, that would be an odd joke.
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Jul 27th, 2002, 04:26 PM | #13 |
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Hello Harry.
And Fortune, I think that would make a lot of people sad x.X |
Jul 27th, 2002, 04:31 PM | #14 |
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Tt, she could just unban herself.
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Jul 27th, 2002, 04:45 PM | #15 |
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Bof, bien sur.
But if she did it would make people sad still. |
Jul 27th, 2002, 06:51 PM | #16 |
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Oh no Mourdor. If I ban myself, I won't be able to get the unban later! But I wonder if I could even complete the process...
Ah, big questions for my little brain! |
Jul 27th, 2002, 07:28 PM | #17 |
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....I'm such a fool.....
It was me...I started it all...the "banned" idea was mine...i explained to Harry and Carlito the reasons y just now (sorry not earlier but i wasnt on yesterday) and in NO WAY was it Mena's idea...it was mine...and if she said she started it, then she was only tryin to save my ass...which makes me feel even worse that she'd take the blame...when i did this in no way was i tryin to start chaos for the staff...but i guess im too immature to acknowledge the fact that it indeed would, I'm not sure who else joined my lil "campaign" other than Mena because like i said before I was gone, but i offer my deepest apologies to everyone who got in trouble and to the staff, and anyone else who was offended and i especiallally apologize to Mena and I hope that she doesnt leave on my account because the whole thing got out of hand and I feel awful...so Im gonna take a leave of absense from the forums for awhile...get my head straight on stuff and let everybody cool down...hell and maybe it'll make some of the staff's lives easier ...well ill come back sometimes this week to check my PM box and anyone else who joined this please feel free to PM me and b*tch me out cause i deserve it....so I'll be seein u guys around i guess...its a shame too, i would've liked to have reached 1000 posts But dont worry too much...im sure the S4H will return and reclaim my once former glory again... Peace guys
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Jul 27th, 2002, 08:05 PM | #18 |
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Well, I was expecting something similar, because when stuff like that happen there's always someone who says "I'm leaving for now". I think you guys are taking this thing too seriously. And If you want to take a break for your health (getting angry is not healthy... and neither is healthy having continuous worries) it's ok. But don't think about this whole situation as a matter of great importance. Nobody has to pay with blood
I'm a bit sad if some good member decides to leave, also if its for a short period. Do you want to make the little reindeer cry? *__* |
Jul 27th, 2002, 08:30 PM | #19 |
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Well...
as I said you in private, there is nobody who's pissed off at you, and there isn't even a situation which needs to cool down... I really don't know why you, or Mena, can think that anybody was offended, angry or anything else because of that joke. Nobody said anything against you, we just asked to change the custom title, and in a friendly way... It was just a joke, and now you are acting like if you did something horrible. Man, life is so difficult, there is no need to make things even more complicate... Smile a bit, and try not to be paranoid!!! |
Jul 27th, 2002, 08:41 PM | #20 |
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well guys you sure take a lot of things seriously. It was a joke and it got out of hand, now its over. So do you really think people are going to remmember you as a 'bad' person with one little joke? Of course not, so cheer up and get back, not that any of you already didn't.
One more thing I really want everyone to know is that 'I'm leaving' is probably the worst thing to do, and thats what makes people remmember you as a "bad" person, by telling them you're leaving >.< If you have to leave there is no need to say you're leaving, I know I had to say it b/c I wasn't here daily O_O
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