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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 03:03 PM   #21
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Your Dog is soooo cute chick3nwire

as for me I have neither I did want a black cat at one time but if I had to choose any animal i would said iguana's lol
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 03:15 PM   #22
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I really don't know! as already said, some Dogs are simply nicer than others... I adore teenie dogs, but am really scared of bigger ones... but they all tend to be viscous to outsiders. Only a Post/Milk/Paper person could ever point that out to you. There simply is no difference between a big or teenie dog when you're outside their door. Cats can also hurt you a little, but then they don't actually care (so thats where they loose points )... In the end, they both have their pros and cons, and will inevitably crap on your carpet at some time during their lives. hence why my mum has never allowed me to have either. bah. I'll get a Rat or somthing and then she'd really be scared
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 04:18 PM   #23
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That's a cute dog Chick3nWire! I'm so angry now, people who have an account with ranchoweb.com, who are not a paying member, doesn't allow none paying members, to upload a picture there. Poor Annabell, she won't be shown again....
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 04:51 PM   #24
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 07:07 PM   #25
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I really like all animals, but personally, I'd have to say I'm a cat person. Of course, that's probably because I've grown up with one; he's almost 16 years old! He's my best bud.
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 07:09 PM   #26
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Of course, that's probably because I've grown up with one; he's almost 16 years old!
Wow! 16 years is a lot for a cat, isn't it? I'm impressed!
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 07:31 PM   #27
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My old Neighbour had a cat who lived to be 17 (human years!!)... then.. you know..

I have another question, whatcha prefer, Gerbils or Hamsters? lol

I'd have to say Hamsters, because I've owned 4 my entire life plus Gerbils Tails look really creepy !!
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Old Jan 31st, 2003, 11:43 PM   #28
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This is your dog, not any dog. Some dogs are taught to hurt people, even children. And indeed they do. I think the worst limit of dogs is the fact they can be taught what to do.
Yes but that's ALL because of human fault! Cats are cruel by nature! heh.

I pity anyone who's been scarred by an animal, and I just pray they don't blame the animal. Humans are the cause of these occurances and it really is depressing to corrupt any animal to that point.

Dogs are just so willing to please and just really don't know any better if they are rewarded for behaviour like that. They want their owner to be happy so they do as they are told. I'm sure someone who would teach a dog to be like that can't be good people themselves and have probably beaten the dog to bring it to these limits as well.

I assume cats can be trained as well? Maybe my cat is such a jerk because he was abused before? ( I got him from the humain society, used cat, ehh)

That's the thing I hate about cats is that they are so independant and they think they are better than everyone.

I think a HUGE part in this 'dogs or cats?' dealy has to do with upbringing too. I mean if you've had a dog all your life (as me) and then get a cat 20 years later, you expect the cat to be somewhat like the dog in the fact that they care about their owners and care not to hurt them or whatnot. I'm not saying that I expect all animals to be alike! By heavens no. Just that when you get an animal as a pet... I guess you'd expect something of them... I can't really put into words what I'm trying to say so I'll stop now.

RATS make EXCELLENT pets!!! they are pefect for anyone!!! Gah I love them!!! I 've owned 10 in my lifetime and live the little guys to death bt I developed an allergy to them. :/
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 02:31 AM   #29
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I can't understand why people like lazy cats? They are hissing, scratching, lazy, and boring pets. I rather take my dog outside and pick up the poop with a grocery bag, then dump a stinky, piss and crap letter box. That's desgusting, yuck!
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 03:42 AM   #30
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Wow! 16 years is a lot for a cat, isn't it? I'm impressed!
my neighbors cats lived into their 20's. i used to take care of them while they were away.

Yes it is true some cats certainly seem ornary or even viscious to their owners and other cats and dogs, but I absolutely love the nice ones. My cat is an absolute sweetheart and the fact that she is more independant than a dog does not bother me anymore. Before I got Belle (my cat) we had a couple of dogs that I loved and cared about very much. I can't say which I prefer because my ability to connect with animals has sorta allowed me to understand both cats and dogs almost equally. Actually, dogs are a little harder to understand in certain ways because they act less like people than cats do.
Anywayz...personally I can't stand it much when people argue which is better...but carry on if you must.
Just let it be known that I dream of a world where people love cats and dogs equally and may sit down to eat at the same table together feeding scraps to their pets be it dog or cat!

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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 08:37 AM   #31
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Anywayz...personally I can't stand it much when people argue which is better...but carry on if you must.
Yeah, that's pretty annoying when people start arguments for deciding which is better. Cats are not cruel by nature, as dogs are not cruel by nature. Cruelty is something that man applies to other species, but it's not proper of them. Cats and dogs are all animals. They follow instincts and instincts are similar for each animal, telling them to feed themselves, to reproduce themselves, to protect their territories and to survive. For this reason, when a dog or a cat is in danger or in other particular situations, no matter what, it'll act like an animal. There won't be anymore "man's best friend" or other similar things. They'll hurt you if they must, because they'll try to protect themselves and their breed (if they have one). This is not cruelty, this is nature. Better you learn this instead of dissing an animal's nature because you don't like it or because you don't know much about it.

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That's the thing I hate about cats is that they are so independant and they think they are better than everyone.
Thinking they're better than anyone is not proper of a cat's mind either. The cat simply don't care, that's why it can't be trained as a dog. Cats like to be left alone when they want to stay alone. They're not as social as dogs, but they like company sometimes.

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I think a HUGE part in this 'dogs or cats?' dealy has to do with upbringing too. I mean if you've had a dog all your life (as me) and then get a cat 20 years later, you expect the cat to be somewhat like the dog in the fact that they care about their owners and care not to hurt them or whatnot. I'm not saying that I expect all animals to be alike! By heavens no.
What you said it's true: people usually decide which is "better" thinking about the pets they used to own. I repeat: I had both (dogs for 9+ years and cats for 12+ years) and for different aspect they're all great pets. It's pretty unfair comparing them.
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 08:49 AM   #32
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I would have to say cats. Although mine died over the summer, I plan on getting a new one when I move out to an apartment.
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 11:55 AM   #33
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I have lived with cats and dogs just as long as the other. I don't dislike dogs because they are cruel, but because I connect better with the cats. I also felt that me and the cat I used are kinda the same, disliked and misunderstood.
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 12:03 PM   #34
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I don't dislike dogs because they are cruel, but because I connect better with the cats. I also felt that me and the cat I used are kinda the same, disliked and misunderstood.
Well, I hope nobody here completely dislikes animals. Hating or disliking some kind of animal, like a dog or a cat, is really sad, but not for the pet, obviously. It's sad for the person, because whatever the pet, you can learn a lot of things from it. Preference is one thing, hate is another, I think.

BTW, cats are indeed misunderstood sometimes, mainly because they want to keep things for themselves. They're secretive animals, they don't like to share anything like dogs do. Are you saying you feel the same way ssjtrunks?
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For this reason, when a dog or a cat is in danger or in other particular situations, no matter what, it'll act like an animal. There won't be anymore "man's best friend" or other similar things. They'll hurt you if they must, because they'll try to protect themselves and their breed (if they have one). This is not cruelty, this is nature.
In what circumstances do you think a dog or cat will attack its master to survive?
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 12:29 PM   #36
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BTW, cats are indeed misunderstood sometimes, mainly because they want to keep things for themselves. They're secretive animals, they don't like to share anything like dogs do. Are you saying you feel the same way ssjtrunks?
That's part of it, the other part is she sometimes would drool and purred a lot, my older brother always disliked her for that. I compared those to my faults.

She always used to sleep on my back at night. I miss her a lot.
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Old Feb 1st, 2003, 12:35 PM   #37
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In what circumstances do you think a dog or cat will attack its master to survive?
Listen to one little example: I told I had dogs. One of them was really really fond of my father. But entering a fight with other dogs, he didn't hesitate do to hurt my father who was trying to stop him. All this because the other dog was "invading" the territory (my garden to be more precise). In normal circumstances my dog was all sweet and humble, doing anything to stay with my dad or to please him. But you know, one thing is how a dog behaves when he stays among humans only or among other pets he knows quite well, another is when a dog meets other dogs he considers to be rivals (regarding territory or female dogs). They really are different things. It's the same for cats, anyways. I had the chance to notice the same thing happening to my male cat in more than one occasion.
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You can't totally domesticate a dog or cat, it's instincts stay with it from the day it is born until the day it dies. But In that example you gave, the dog was looking out for one thing, itself. And It sounds as if you dog mistook your dads actions (dogs aint that smart) But no point in arguing about animal instincts and that crap.

I hope your dad wasn't too hurt by your dog.
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You can't totally domesticate a dog or cat, it's instincts stay with it from the day it is born until the day it dies. But In that example you gave, the dog was looking out for one thing, itself. And It sounds as if you dog mistook your dads actions (dogs aint that smart) But no point in arguing about animal instincts and that crap.

I hope your dad wasn't too hurt by your dog.
Exactly. Insticts can't be blamed. There's no point in blaming an animal for following them and it's pure nonsense calling an animal cruel for this reason.

Note: yes, my dad was hurt in that occasion (we were going to the seaside for the weekend and instead we had to bring him to the hospital ), but it was nothing terribly serious. But he got really mad at the dog
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It's nice to know he's okay after that. So, is it their instinct to go through trash cans and cheew up paper? I seriously would like to know.
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