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Apr 25th, 2003, 12:13 PM | #21 |
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No we get CN by cable as well - it just depends on our choices. I get CN by cable at work cos we have cable tv and I have Sky sattellite digi at home.
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What I'm trying to say in that above post is that if things are traditionally a certain way, they should just stay that way. I mean, even though there are some Asian singers who'd like to make it big in the US, they know that it's kinda tough so they just make it big in their own country and whoever likes Asian music can import it. I'm not saying that I know everything Asian because I'm born in the US and hung around Americans a lot....but I also kept some of my Asian roots....and plus, since I now associate with Asians now, I have met some Japanese people (not become friends, mind you only aqcuaintances) and their behavior is the same as I mentioned already. And if you guys don't believe me on "the Japanese would like to keep anime to Japanese", you can go onto AnimeNation and read the archives of that "Ask John" guy. I always had a feeling about the whole Japanese only thing, but there's a recent question called "Western mangaka" and he states it. And he's clearly an Anime/Manga/Japan guru, so you can take his word for it. Quote:
Once again, I would like to say that I'm not saying that Americans shouldn't make their own anime. If they get the anime style down where it looks exactly like anime (because I seriously do not like those anime/cartoon types....anyone seen the newer "Dirty Pair" manga by that comic book artist? I didn't like it) then I'm all up for it. If anyone wants to go over to Japan and be a mangaka or draw anime, by all means, go for it! But as for me, I just enjoy anime from Japan more that's all and it's only my opinion.
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Interesting views, but there's not much I can say. FOr me all I have is the mainstream right now, if it's not on television or the radio I don't know about it unless someone tells me. I only heard about Dirty Pair this past year and that was because it's shown on showtime, but I haven't watched it recently. I don't like how they just show random episodes.
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Thats a god issue... If they are gonna show anime and its a series why not show the series in the right order rather than a list of epsodes like
1 34 5 23 21 Thats just silly.
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Yes, a large percent of blacks make up the NBA but there are whites that play it and are good at it. A good Asian example is Yao Ming. I don't listen to rap music much because most of it just dumb. But if an Asian wanted to rap and could there would be somebody with a deal for him or her. It only seems strange because most rappers are black. But I still think it is totally wrong for things to have to stay according to tradition. If things were still like that most women would be at home all day cooking dinner and cleaning the house. Or people would still be burned alive for being witches. Maybe I'm just jealous? I have to sit at my computer and download the animes I want to watch. Then I have to read for 20 straight minutes. It just ticks me off. And I'm sorry for insulting you... I'm usually not mean...but like I said I was really angry at some of the things you said because I am not like that.
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No matter what you guys say, Meryl makes the good points in this debate. She's right about all the racial stuff, even if you thought it sounded racist (which I know she isn't, so you guys shouldn't get all defensive...), it got the point across really well.
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And the whole "Americans stealing it" and "selfish" thing...I only mentioned that because a lot of things have happened that makes me assume that a large percent of Americans would do that. And while I already know that not every American is like this, I'm mostly talking about the media majority, not just normal people. Quote:
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Anyway, this rapper Jon Paul...is he currently popular or was he popular a while back? I'm only asking because if he started out earlier, then it's no problem...he probably is a great rapper and people were fine with him. But...if he started out when the whole "9/11 attack" sprung up...I'm pretty sure many people would probably be kinda negative towards him and he might not be as popular. But if it is the latter half, a good majority are probably more open-minded likes him because his music is good and they don't care about the whole Afghani thing. Quote:
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I'm not trying to be racist, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I'm not trying to insult American's intelligence, or Americans...I'm just stating my opinions and the facts from what I've seen. Maybe my facts aren't correct and I know perfectly well that people are now more open-minded and more accepting...but the world isn't perfect and slight racism is still hidden deep in people who say they're open-minded and accepting of other cultures.
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I wouldn't mind if they made American anime.
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So now...why not? Why won't a large majority like him? Why? Because the guy is an Asian. And there's only a small percent of people like you who say "I'll listen to anything that's good". But these people who say "Don't listen to Asian rapping" are close-minded and refuse to give it a try because it's just the thought of an "Asian rapping". I mean, if they have an accent and whatnot, how cool is that to hear? It's just not, okay once again, "traditional" that Asians rap. It's just not normal or commonly seen. Maybe in their own country, it's okay. But going over to the US and trying to rap when there's real rappers who do a better job because they know how to really do it...is not. Yeah, it is a matter of tastes, but it's also race that plays a big part too. Quote:
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(Off topic our not a whole new can of worms has been opened and im not ready to close it) Hmm I can see that your one that likes to put words in peoples mouth . I mean U just basically decided how millions would re act in a county you dont even live in. You seem to think you know americans very well and clearly you do not.
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1) The Japanese just have their own cultural and way of doing things. For the millionth time, the Japanese are more than happy to export anime, but to have a foreigner go over and try to do an anime is not something they'd be too pleased with. 2) If someone wants to make an American anime, that's fine. Go ahead, I don't care! It's not even my problem anyway. I just prefer my animes to be from Japan, that's all. If someone can come up with a great story and have an American cartoonist draw anime really well, then I'm more than happy to check it out. With these as my answers, no one seems to accept them. Instead people are arguing with me about "Why I said this" or "Why I said that" and I'm merely stating facts from what I've read and know, and my own opinions. I never said "Hey, I'm the head of the Anime Industry and here are the reasons why". No, I was only stating from what I know and this turned out to be a war against me. I never meant to insult anyone (as I've stated for the billionth time already) but it's fine if people want to get offended and pissy about it. Quote:
I thought this thread was created so that someone can answer the question about why there isn't American anime. Well, I gave my answers and get bashed for it. That's fine, I didn't expect things to turn out pleasant anyway. But all in all, the topic needs to be seriously revived, otherwise it'll get too out of hand and will turn out to be an even bigger war. And I don't want that.
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I think americans should get into anime for the reasons Ive listed through out this thread. Also..Meryl im sorry that you have been mis treated by so many americans But honestely from my 18 years here in OHIO i can tell you that its not like that everywhere. And once again thanks for the input all And well I just have to use this : hehehe
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This Paul guy you're talking about is Sean Paul(not Jon) and he's fairly new. His music is more reggae or something else than rap. Quote:
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The beat is important yes but I could make a good beat tapping on the stearing wheel of my car (If I had one ) . I look more for vocal TALENT which is much harder to come by than a guy who can play with some dials on a machine and make a good beat. Dj's are a dime a dozen..good singers are priceless. And from what ive heard of J-Rock/J-Pop (Havent heard a whole lot though) theyre arent a whole lot of good singers in it. But then again like I said how good something is , is in the eye (Or in this case Ear) of the beholder
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I just don't see the difference it makes where the anime comes from if it looks the same. I understand you feel the same way (right?) that if it doesn't differ that much that you wouldn't have that much of a problem. Quote:
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