[Vulcan Raven]

[QUOTE]Not exactly directed at you, you just reminded me of all people who criticize Raiden just because he's not as cold-blooded and cynic as Snake

Well Frozen, like alot of people have said, Raiden at the start was made out to be a sissy boy and says things like: "Rose I Have Killed somebody." When I heard that I thought the same thing, "Sissy Boy,What the F@#k were you thinking kojjima? were you drunk when you did this part of the game???

But as I neared the end of the game, Arsenal Gear, When He was tied up/on the torture thing And Solidus told us/raiden about the civil war days when he was the top of the elite child army in the Civil War. where he eared such names as the 'white Devil' and 'Jack the ripper' after the war he fled from the relief centre and 'so called 'FOXHOUND' (the Patriots)

So if you look Raiden, he DID after all have the codname snake @ the start of the game.

Look Past his girly, long haired Blonde Hair

and THEN yu will see who raiden TRULY is.

Okay, and also i do not own Substance and have SOL.

I bought MGS2 SOL as soon as it came out and now substance is out and I NEED SUBSTANCE!

u think i should sell SOL(its worth nothing now substance is out)

or keep it and just buy Substance (as SOL is on substance..)

what do you guys think??