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carnage179 · Apr 13th, 2003, 07:51 PM

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I agree with you about the end. It was stupid and way over the top. I did like the story up till then. I found the idea of some men with alot of power interesting, the patroits reminded me of the men in the X-files. But then when they were saying that this whole thing had been just to train someone, and all that talk about controlling people. I thought it was kind of dumb how everything bad that happened in the world wanst an accident and was caused by them. In MGS3 I would like for them to be less powerfull and just be somepeople in the pentagon, like in MGS1. They were powerful and had designed a metal gear and stuff, and they existed. Also how Cambell was really just a virtual reality program...dont get me started

I have played the orignal Metal Gear games, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake for the MSX, MGS was a remake/sequel of them because it took ideas and stuff from the first 2. MG2

S(NOT MGS2) was better than MGS1. After playing that one I realised how much MGS2 sucked, bad characters, levels and music(I found it didnt set the mood like in MGS1). The bosses were stupid, vamp was the worst, didnt fit it and didnt die. I wanted this game to be realistic(yes, I know that Metal Gear is an unrealistic idea, but that was the only thing I wanted to be kinda unrealistic) Solidus Snake was stupid, looked like an idoit in that suit and his motive was the stupidest one I ever heard. Liquids was kinda strange too, but I liked how he was trying to create a army of Gnome soldiers, but how he talks about how he how his genes were telling him to do that was kinda stupid, but it made him sound crazy. Solidus wanted to leave he mark in history cause he cant have kids, plus he wants to get back at the paroits. Fortune was stupid cause she wouldnt die, even without that thing that made bullets fly away. And she had that horrible music and would say things like "Why wont you kill me." Her costume was stupid too. Like anyone in the military would wear a bathing suit with a cape. Fatman fit in the most, I thought his fight was really good, but took too long to happen. You're more than haveway through the game when have your second fight.

Levels sucked, too enclosed. Plus how the sun was out for the plant part just distroyied any bit of mood.

Raiden was a little pansy. Looked liked a girl, pretty much skiped insead of walked. Complaned all the time. The thing with his GF was boring, stupid, long, and obvious. YOU'D HAVE BE AN IDOIT NOT TO KNOW IT THEIR ANIVERSERY. Thats the most played out thing ever. The guy always forgets their anniversary. Plus the stuff about his past was stupid. When solidus says that his killed his parents I didnt care. I learnt that 5 minutes ago, I havent been wondering about that. It's also a rip off of how gray fox/ninja killed Naiome(I cant spell shit) parents. Speaking of Solidus, what a bad death, he fell on a statue.

Thing I didnt like about this one is wasnt really like a military themed game. MGS1 wasnt compleatly like MG2

S and MG were. The costumes, hair, weapons, etc wernt at all. Like I said befor, if someone was in the military, they wouldnt wear a bathing suit and a cape. Snake and Raidan had cool looking wetsuits. Raidan woundnt be allowed to have hair like that. Not to sure about Snake's mullet, but I dont see why anyone would want one anyway. Also, I doubt anyone in the miltary would use knives as their primary weapon, or that big electric shocker thing. Also, in the tanker when the Russian General grabs the Marine and points a gun at him, Marines are trained in martial arts and one of the first things they learn is how to take down an enime from behind and disarm them. Okay, maybe I'm going a little overboard on my rant with the last statement about the Marines, How else would they take controll of the tanker if they didnt capture the leader.

I thought that how liquid was taking controll of Ocelot's body was weird and over the top. If they wanted to bring liquid back bring him. Who says the heart attack killed him, remeber how strong his body is? It could of just injered him very bad, maybe now he has a pacemaker, but soon he could recover and not need it again.

Also, now that you can aim in first person, I thing you should give the enimes an advantage. I can kill them from almost anywhere in the room if I wanted to. I think that to even it out the enimes should be able to see more than 10 feet in front of them(if you think that is too hard play the orignals where the enimes can see all the way in front of them, well, actually back then they couldnt see to the sides.) Aleast the enimes have very good AI.

The name I did like. Sons of Liberty. Sounds cool, but had a different meaning that what i thought it would. I thought it was called that because the Snakes were created by the government. Not of the terrorist group.

Another thing I hated is how in the comericals and previews and everything, there was alot of lieing in it. They never show Raidan, Snake is in the tanker fighting Forture. In one commerical Snake is fighting the harrier on the brooklen bridge. Also, why did they get rid of the hind d? It's tradition, has been in every metal gear game execpt MGS2. Way to ruin it.

Anyway, that's just my openion.

Oh, whoever said that Metal Gear games revolve around Metal Gear WRONG!

they revolve around Big Boss and Snake

MG: Snake sneaks into outer heaven to find out what metal gear is. Big Boss tries to stop him without getting caught. Snake tries to stop Big Bosses. At the end Snake fights Big Boss

MG2

S(this one is actually about Snake, Big Boss, Gray Fox, and a few others) Snake sneaks into Zanzabar Land to stop Big Boss from recreating Metal Gear and using it to start a war. Snake learns Gray Fox is there, eventually has to fight him. Snake then fights Big Boss without any weapons.

MGS(this is about Snake, Liquid, Gray Fox all fighting over big bosses remains) Snake is sent it to rescue hostages, and find out if the terrorist can lauch a nuke. This whole thing is over Big Bosses remains that can be used to make a Gnome Army. Metal Gear is only their weapon they use to try and get it.

Apr 13th, 2003, 07:51 PM	#34
carnage179 Registered User Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6	WARNING SPOILERS I agree with you about the end. It was stupid and way over the top. I did like the story up till then. I found the idea of some men with alot of power interesting, the patroits reminded me of the men in the X-files. But then when they were saying that this whole thing had been just to train someone, and all that talk about controlling people. I thought it was kind of dumb how everything bad that happened in the world wanst an accident and was caused by them. In MGS3 I would like for them to be less powerfull and just be somepeople in the pentagon, like in MGS1. They were powerful and had designed a metal gear and stuff, and they existed. Also how Cambell was really just a virtual reality program...dont get me started I have played the orignal Metal Gear games, Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake for the MSX, MGS was a remake/sequel of them because it took ideas and stuff from the first 2. MG2S(NOT MGS2) was better than MGS1. After playing that one I realised how much MGS2 sucked, bad characters, levels and music(I found it didnt set the mood like in MGS1). The bosses were stupid, vamp was the worst, didnt fit it and didnt die. I wanted this game to be realistic(yes, I know that Metal Gear is an unrealistic idea, but that was the only thing I wanted to be kinda unrealistic) Solidus Snake was stupid, looked like an idoit in that suit and his motive was the stupidest one I ever heard. Liquids was kinda strange too, but I liked how he was trying to create a army of Gnome soldiers, but how he talks about how he how his genes were telling him to do that was kinda stupid, but it made him sound crazy. Solidus wanted to leave he mark in history cause he cant have kids, plus he wants to get back at the paroits. Fortune was stupid cause she wouldnt die, even without that thing that made bullets fly away. And she had that horrible music and would say things like "Why wont you kill me." Her costume was stupid too. Like anyone in the military would wear a bathing suit with a cape. Fatman fit in the most, I thought his fight was really good, but took too long to happen. You're more than haveway through the game when have your second fight. Levels sucked, too enclosed. Plus how the sun was out for the plant part just distroyied any bit of mood. Raiden was a little pansy. Looked liked a girl, pretty much skiped insead of walked. Complaned all the time. The thing with his GF was boring, stupid, long, and obvious. YOU'D HAVE BE AN IDOIT NOT TO KNOW IT THEIR ANIVERSERY. Thats the most played out thing ever. The guy always forgets their anniversary. Plus the stuff about his past was stupid. When solidus says that his killed his parents I didnt care. I learnt that 5 minutes ago, I havent been wondering about that. It's also a rip off of how gray fox/ninja killed Naiome(I cant spell shit) parents. Speaking of Solidus, what a bad death, he fell on a statue. Thing I didnt like about this one is wasnt really like a military themed game. MGS1 wasnt compleatly like MG2S and MG were. The costumes, hair, weapons, etc wernt at all. Like I said befor, if someone was in the military, they wouldnt wear a bathing suit and a cape. Snake and Raidan had cool looking wetsuits. Raidan woundnt be allowed to have hair like that. Not to sure about Snake's mullet, but I dont see why anyone would want one anyway. Also, I doubt anyone in the miltary would use knives as their primary weapon, or that big electric shocker thing. Also, in the tanker when the Russian General grabs the Marine and points a gun at him, Marines are trained in martial arts and one of the first things they learn is how to take down an enime from behind and disarm them. Okay, maybe I'm going a little overboard on my rant with the last statement about the Marines, How else would they take controll of the tanker if they didnt capture the leader. I thought that how liquid was taking controll of Ocelot's body was weird and over the top. If they wanted to bring liquid back bring him. Who says the heart attack killed him, remeber how strong his body is? It could of just injered him very bad, maybe now he has a pacemaker, but soon he could recover and not need it again. Also, now that you can aim in first person, I thing you should give the enimes an advantage. I can kill them from almost anywhere in the room if I wanted to. I think that to even it out the enimes should be able to see more than 10 feet in front of them(if you think that is too hard play the orignals where the enimes can see all the way in front of them, well, actually back then they couldnt see to the sides.) Aleast the enimes have very good AI. The name I did like. Sons of Liberty. Sounds cool, but had a different meaning that what i thought it would. I thought it was called that because the Snakes were created by the government. Not of the terrorist group. Another thing I hated is how in the comericals and previews and everything, there was alot of lieing in it. They never show Raidan, Snake is in the tanker fighting Forture. In one commerical Snake is fighting the harrier on the brooklen bridge. Also, why did they get rid of the hind d? It's tradition, has been in every metal gear game execpt MGS2. Way to ruin it. Anyway, that's just my openion. Oh, whoever said that Metal Gear games revolve around Metal Gear WRONG! they revolve around Big Boss and Snake MG: Snake sneaks into outer heaven to find out what metal gear is. Big Boss tries to stop him without getting caught. Snake tries to stop Big Bosses. At the end Snake fights Big Boss MG2S(this one is actually about Snake, Big Boss, Gray Fox, and a few others) Snake sneaks into Zanzabar Land to stop Big Boss from recreating Metal Gear and using it to start a war. Snake learns Gray Fox is there, eventually has to fight him. Snake then fights Big Boss without any weapons. MGS(this is about Snake, Liquid, Gray Fox all fighting over big bosses remains) Snake is sent it to rescue hostages, and find out if the terrorist can lauch a nuke. This whole thing is over Big Bosses remains that can be used to make a Gnome Army. Metal Gear is only their weapon they use to try and get it.