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Originally posted by Preventer Wind
And do not get into finances. This war will cost a lot of money and it will take lives. But do you really have to put a price on freedom? Maybe it is not your freedom but I think it is damn well worth for other people's freedom. Are you people really that selfish that you can only think of your freedom? Something that most of us have not earned and will never earn. The greatest gift I have been given is the chance to be able to live in a place where I can dream about things that actually have a chance at happening because I live in the U.S.A. If you people do not want other people to have that same opportunity then go on with your beliefs. But I ask you to think about what video game you played or what book you read or whom you talked to or how your day at school went. Think hard then ask yourself if you could imagine a life without video games or books or education. Then tell me if you still believe in freedom.
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We are not "getting into finances". I was highlighting the fact that when a country is going to spend 200 billion dollars, when the guide of this country is a president like Mr.Bush who inevitably represents the interests of big industrialists including oil barons and military industry, there is always much more than humanitarism at stake. And what Spank-A-thon said is one of the most evident proofs of this:
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If Bush & Blair are strictly approaching this from a humanitarian perspective, then why haven't they gone after Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe? If it's about weapons of mass destruction, why haven't they gone after Kim Jong Il of North Korea?
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And yes, in U.S.A. you have freedom, lot of it, but U.S. is also one of the few big Western countries in the world WITHOUT a real social security system, and one of the countries where the differences between rich people and poor people is more striking. Don't you think 200 billions of your dollars might have been spent to FINALLY plan and create a better social security system? Is it freedom when only people who can
afford health insurance and who are lucky enough to be eligible for either Medicaid or Medicare can assure them and their femilies the medical treatment they might need?
Sure, U.S.A. are a great country, but people who really love their country shouldn't accept blindly the words and decisions of their president. Bush is not god, you know.
A last thing: a phrase like "The cheese-eating surrender-monkeys deserve no less" is more than childish. Did someone lobotomize you? What's wrong with cheese? What's wrong with monkeys? Would you like being called "hotdog-eating warmonger-monkey"? Nobody is insulting American people, nobody is insulting Iraqi, nobody is insulting you. Who gives you the right to say things like this? What about the French people in the forums?
America was built on the blood of the English, the Italians, the Germans, the Irish, the French: don't forget this. And do you understand that nations have their right to say "No" to the U.S.A.? Like the U.S.A., France made terrible errors in the XXI century - first and foremost the war in Algeria - and now you can't call them surrenders: they don't like this war, surely also for commercial reasons, but at least the French president reflects the feeling of his people, unlike what's happening in Italy or in England. France is a country that suffered like few others in the World War II, and they know better than others the horrors of war. Show some respect.
I'll personally remove all future posts containing insults against other countries and people.
Was I hard enough? Btw, less than ten hours to the attack.