[kupoartist]

ick... PCI cards...

Okies... the real problem is bandwidth with PCI cards. PCI doesn't allow as much data through to the mobo as quickly as AGP (or AGP 2x, 4x or whatever) so it effectly bottle-necks. Essentially that means that even if a decent PCI card exsisted (perhaps a GeForce4 PCI for the sake of arguement) It would be effectivly only as fast as say, a Geforce 2 GTS because the Data simply cant get through...

As for a decent PCI card... I think there was a GeForce 2 MX that was available in PCI stylee... but you'd be hard pressed to find one, and to be honest, I'd rather get a new motherboard that supports AGP...

Anyways.. Enough Tech. Well perhaps some more ^_^. Intergrated Graphics ain't necessairly a bad thing. If you've got an N-Force board, you can start feeling better for yourself... especially if its an MSI N-Force (In which case you can cut a hole in the case and put some perspex in the gap to show off your purty Red Chipset ^_^).

Also are you absolutly sure you don't have AGP? I seriously haven't heard of a PC that came without some form of AGP slot in the last 2 years or so.... I'm not sure how much futher I can comment because I'm not sure how clued up you are (and you must be fairly... A non-clued up person doesn't open up the back of their PC to have a snoop ^_^)

:IMPORTANT EDIT: Found this on www.dabs.com : GeForce 4 MX420 64MB PCI RP VO <- Its only £90 or so but its a UK site...

:IMPORTANT EDIT 2: The above card is manufactured by a company called PNY : https://www.pny.com/home/products/verto.cfm is the url for their Graphics card section ^_^ -- Just check that you dont have AGP... PCI Sucks real big.

:Edit 3 Totally un-important: I have a 32mb Hercules GeForce 2 MX by the way ^_^ - It copes with most things (average of 60fps at Quake III at 1024x768 32bit = Quite nice for a cheapy arsehole card) But I still wanna nick my friend's GeForce3 ti500