[Faile]

Originally Posted by Uchiha Sasuke

LOL Faile, you have no idea. I just like commenting to your rants because there so freaking one-sided. You already displayed in this thread the point I was making about you. So please, oh please give us a break and calm down. Go sit down and think or something and quit ripping on others because you think you know there ideals and views. And don't come back at me with anything cause you'll just go to prove how much of a hypocrite you are. Espically with the comment about enjoying music. Just remember your the one that came into this thread and started the bullshit. I say you take the quiet way out and don't make this any worse.
~Will

God, I'll start showing you respect when you learn how to spell and use punctuation. Go back and read the thread, and even if it screws your eyes up and hurts really badly, try to understand where the conflict has come from. Come on! You can do it! Stop dragging your knuckles and come join us in the twenty first century!

Faile, sometimes you just piss me off. even if the band is over hyped it doesn't mean bash on them because you have a superiority complex, and why the hell did you call me emo kid? excuse me but when have I ever displayed any emo stereotypes? okay, so I like arctic monkeys, suck my balls, if i like them, I LIKE THEM, NOT YOU. so how about you keep your negative comments to yourself.
and your band sucks balls. lick my gootch, ****.
(I get to talk shit back mainly because you started it, and don't mind my grammar or punctuation errors, I'm a little buzzed)

The band are hyped, fact. I don't care if you like them, fact. Why should I not be allowed to state that I dislike a band without fools like you kicking off about it? Christ boy, grow a fucking spine. Your comment about my band is the best one yet though. Have you heard us? No! Oh, how I laughed. How could you have heard us? Have you been in the Manchester area recently? Been to any of our shows? No! But because you're missing out, I'll post the most recent review, from manchestermusic.co.uk

...[They've] got talent though; his Wedding Present shirt a clue, and his tales of love and life recall Gedge in his dark, lost, Pavement-like years and are delivered in a similarly sung-spoken tone. During the last track he reflects on missed opportunities, almost too close to the bone, and I’m left wondering about all the bands any of us never saw that we could have fallen in love with...

Which renders your oh-so-mature comments rather useless doesn't it? You're hardly shaking my faith in my band. You get to talk shit back? Kid, you never stop talking shit. Why did I call you emo? Because you're whining like some little emo kid, that's why.

man.. all I wanted was to share a video of a band I enjoy and that prick came and crapped all over it. and he didn't even do it smooth like vic viper (who is the fucking raddest member aside from rechick and redpyramidhead on this forum) he just said it because he felt like it.

oh and I enjoy oqylsdfs sasuke's posts because at least he knows his musical stuff unlike faile who probably hits power chords while his band screams away lyrics of how life sucks

And here he is whining some more? What's up little emo kid? I didn't "crap all over" the video you posted. I said they were overhyped (fact.) and thus I thought they were no good. Sir, you're placing far too much importance on my opinion. And yes, I probably hit power chords. Although you'd not know, again. Still, you know what? Power chords are fun. Does life suck? I guess it does for people like you. Some of us are getting good reviews though and are secure with who we are.

Yeah I don't exactly like conflict either, I also don't see myself as an overly competive guy. I just like to exercise my knowledge from time to time and when someone comes in here and just walks over it, it pisses me off. There no reason to go about telling someone there bands sucks or they have no taste and knowledge in music. It's called preference. Faile has yet to learn that and he's gotta start respecting it.

You don't like conflict? How many times have you blundered in to a thread here and caused a scene? I've certainly lost count. Kid, I have a variety of musical qualifications and work in music retail. Do you think I need your knowledge rammed down my throat? No! I don't and especially not when your knowledge is incorrect.

I like how this is one way traffic. It's SERIOUS BUSINESS when I happen to say how I dislike a band, but fine when anyone else does it. Still, it is amusing. I'm not sure why you think I have to respect other people's musical tastes and never dare to voice my own opinion! Like I've said before, I'm more than happy for other people to disagree with me, but the key is to justify it. I've more than justified my original post with my opinion. Sadly, I don't see that coming the other way from you kids.

Oh Yeah heres some Jeff Buckley

See, I like Jeff Buckley. I play the same guitar as he did on Grace (black 1995 fender mexican strat with custom pickup at bridge). We can get along! Hurrah!

Wow. I didn't read that particular post until now.

First of all, any comments against you started after your random negative remarks against the vids others posted. You didn't even offer constructive criticism.

I don't need to offer constructive criticism! I'm not trying to get anybody to improve their musical tastes! My whole argument is that they should be secure enough not to respond like an idiot because (shock horror) one person said he thought band X were no good. We certainly shouldn't have strayed in to the territory where I'm getting nasty things said about me and my band, should we?

Second of all, it may just be me, but I wasn't the slightest bit offended by Sasuke droppin a lil musical knowledge on us. In fact, I was excited since I live to discuss that type of thing. Nobody here is personally attacking you and your hard work put into your music, yet you act like Sasuke hit a soft spot. Whatever insecurities he brought up by simply mentioning the vocal power of this musician he admires and talking about octave ranges need to be let go, man. While I agree with you that musicianship has more aspects than ability, most dedicated musicians are able to recognize ability in eachothers' compositions and the fact that ability is the key to opening new doors in what you create as a musician. If your attitude is to get offended everytime you hear a musician with great technical ability getting noticed instead of you, then you should lose that attitude quick.

Again, I believe what I said was in response to his fit of shock when he was told that this guy's voice was as good as other musicians. My, oh my. I still believe that technical ability does not equal amazing music, as often it lacks passion. Again, that's just my opinion. My opinions seems to be a cross I'm having to bear but I'm not going to dillute myself for others. I still believe I've not really acted out of line in anyway, especially given the reaction of certain members. I'm very secure about what I think, feel and create. For the first time in my life perhaps, but certainly I am secure in it. Sorry kids.

Honestly, my hope is that when you hear other musicians that may be more advanced or more knowledgable than you at something, you will have a fire start to burn in your belly to step up your game. You need to be humble and learn from competition and when you prove yourself by demonstrating your newfound songwriting abilities you can truly be proud of yourself.

And when I hear other musicians that inspire me, I do push myself harder. There's a few local bands here and when I see them I come back and I learn and adapt and try to equal them. Likewise with a long list of bands I could mention now. And I believe that the above review we got proves an awful lot. I'm being compared to two of my all time heroes - David Gedge (of the Wedding Present) and Pavement. That's pretty flattering for me and I was amazed, because I know there's an awful lot more I could be doing with the band. Time will tell, I guess.

Guys, we can all get along on this forum, but as has been said, we do have to respect each others opinions. What started this? Was it when I stated how I disliked a band? Respect my opinion and believe in your own enough to let it run off your back like a duck or a swan or something. It's not the end of the world. Still, passionate fiery musical debate is always fun.