[merylsilverburg]

Originally Posted by kupoartist

And one more thing - an interesting fact that Meryl's long (I mean, probably the longest post I've ever seen a forum) reminded me of. It is a socially accepted "fact" that women talk far more than men even to the point where "women talk to much". Yet, it's a scientific fact that men talk more than women. Men dominate mixed sex conversations and are far more likely to interupt females than males. If this conversation were in real life, Meryl wouldn't have been able to finish saying what she just did ^^ . That is the real male dominance in practice, the kind of thing that leads to what Mena experienced.

Hehe, I realized I went a little overboard there. ^^;;; Sorry. But anyway, maybe it's true that if I were in a conversation with mixed sex I wouldn't be able to finish my conversation. But, it seems to me, a lot of women do interrupt quite a bit...and women are really opinionated or can't stop once they start. For example, if I were saying what I said above, I'd probably would try to go on even if someone interrupted me...since I'm already on the roll and in the middle of the discussion, there's no way you can stop me...unless you're louder than me or you slap me down, but that'd be just plain rude. But I'm not arguing that males may dominate/interrupt the conversation if a women were speaking. Since men tend to use their loud voices to overpower a women's, it may be possible that the female's voice gets drowned out. But heh...who said that women can't get all shrilly and high-pitched which would subdue the men?

Originally Posted by Spank-A-Thon

So basically, a lot of what is deemed acceptable behaviour is down to your environment. For example, in many parts of Africa is the norm for women to be always topless whilst that would be considered unacceptable in the UK. I would imagine (although I could be wrong) that in Japan it would be dishonourable to address a man as "love" like women here 'Oop North do. Its obvious that societal norms dictate how behaviour is interperated and thus is acceptance.

Yeah that's most likely it. But I mean, I think going topless even in the States would be unacceptable, of course, unless you're in a nude colony/beach or something. But that's beside the point. What I'm saying here is that I agree; it's probably the whole difference in culture and how everyone is raised.

Originally Posted by Spank-A-Thon

Yet men can be equally cruel in different way. Or as I prefer to think of it, if you're an arse - you're an arse irrespective of sex, colour, race or any other way of classifying a person!

How true!

Originally Posted by Spank-A-Thon

This was in reference to the DIY comment - and I loved your closing comment! However, it should be duly noted that this DIY comment was meant in jest as an attempt to lighten the mood...

- S

Oh! I'm sorry, I had no idea your DIY comment was just for laughs. ^^;; Yeah, it's hard to tell sarcasm online...

BTW Spank, your "Contradiction List" was very enjoyable and honestly had some truth in it!

Originally Posted by Deathwatchz

On the other hand, as for the reason this was brought up, I do feel that those men who take matter too far, and are making derogatory comments in means of intimidation, probably out of spite for some action made against them by some woman in the past, are causing totally unnecessary strife. They are taking out their anger on all women, and unfortunately distressing people like poor mena here. As for these bastards, they should be treated like rapists in central america. (rape a woman there, and your D*@K gets turned into string cheese) I think that these people simply take their efforts too far either because they are simply doing it to cause distress, or they are the type who don't want to hear "no". They have made multiple attempts to catcall, and have failed in these attempts, so they continue in their endeavors, yet their efforts are corrupted with bitterness. Some guys like that might have had to deal with nothing but teases, who lead them on and leave them hanging, but i still dont think it justifies their actions. O well, nuff sed.

Deathwatchz, you're not wrong. Thanks for bringing up this point because I actually forgot to think of this part of the topic. What you said is very true. Which is probably why a lot of women tend to act "defensive" when encountered with such behavior. Guys do tend to take things too far when rejected and start acting in brasher ways to gain the "respect" or "attention" of the woman they're seeking or after. Of course, a lot of these guys are usually maniacs with some serious problems thinking they can get away with what they do. So, Mena being harassed like this by these sort of guys is completely and utterly wrong.

Originally Posted by Redpyramidhead

You people are impossible. I am angry again. My second post was completely ignored and ppl continued with useless bickering back and forth. Look it is THIS SIMPLE! ALL HUMAN BEINGS WHICH INCLUDES BOTH SEXES have a complete and utter disregard for respect of eachother and it needs a lot of help if we are to grow as human beings!!!

Red, calm down! I don't see anyone bickering/arguing on here. Maybe there were a bit of some "heat" going on in the beginning (like the first page), but I'm thinking that Spank, kupo, and myself (which I'm assuming you're reffering to ) are just discussing the whole "male and female relationship" but nothing more. We all have our differences, our opinions, and I'm sure we all respect it. If we were truly bickering and arguing, I'm sure it wouldn't be as calm/light-hearted as what appeared above (smilies, NO CAPS, and so on). And I perfectly understood what you're saying Red (even your second post) but you know...human beings are probably never going to get better with time in this day and age...yes, it sounds cynical but it's true I'm afraid.