Firstly, great thread Mena - it's been a while since we've had a meaty topic here!
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Originally Posted by kupoartist
Women are constantly competing to gain the attention of some male out there. They wear certain clothes, walk a certain way, wear a certain perfume all for this reason.  Erm.. yeah, so basically my point is that in this respect there is equality - except that far, far more women try to catch attention like this. For every guy who is concerned with his appearance there are two girls. Actually, scrap that because probably about 95% of the females I know who're around my age are concerned in these ways and maybe 25% of guys are. Also, females go far and beyond what males do. What is the male equivilent of waxing your legs?
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Shaving your balls...? Ummm, anyway - equality is the point. Men and women try to attract each others attention in different ways. But I do think your statement could be construted as insulting to women by suggesting their beauty regime is dictated to them because of men. Maybe some women simply like to feel good for themselves? I appreciate where you're coming from Kupo - but it does come across as somewhat sexist due to your very first line...
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Originally Posted by kupoartist
Who owns the Porn shop and the seedy bar? What is the ratio of Men / Women on the executive board of Interflora? How can any of these things be counted near the sort of power that male dominated governments and corporations wield? I don't see as if any of these acts, even cumulatively equal any power at all.
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Kupo, equality and power is not simply about money, or who runs a country and so forth - there are many more subtle nuances. Allow me to post a hypothetical situation.
I'm President of the USA and I'm having problems with Cuba. I discover that my wife, the First Lady, has been having an affair. This devestates me, I'm angry, I make bad decisions and the result is I affect the lives of millions.
Okay, this is a really far-fetched situation but as the "most powerful man in the world" do I really have power? I may be able to determine the lifestyle of millions of people, but my wife has the power to make me happy - or even worse, make me sad.
My real life girlfriend said something to me a couple of months ago. Her words were "It's scary how much you make me happy - but what's even more scary is how you have the power to make me unhappy". That really hit home. I have a better job and earn more money that my girlfriend and that could be viewed as power - but its not. She pointed out that we both have the power to make each other unhappy; and that to me is real power.
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Originally Posted by kupoartist
Interesting fact (and thats genuinely not sarcastic ^^) but how does this demonstrate power? A lot of your examples talk about sex or seduction, but I see that more of a male weakness than a female power.
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As mentioned before, the DIY comment was made in jest - sarcasm is very hard to convey in writing I guess.
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Originally Posted by kupoartist
And one more thing - an interesting fact that Meryl's long (I mean, probably the longest post I've ever seen a forum) reminded me of. It is a socially accepted "fact" that women talk far more than men even to the point where "women talk to much". Yet, it's a scientific fact that men talk more than women. Men dominate mixed sex conversations and are far more likely to interupt females than males. If this conversation were in real life, Meryl wouldn't have been able to finish saying what she just did ^^ . That is the real male dominance in practice, the kind of thing that leads to what Mena experienced.
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You should meet my friend Max, once she get's going - NO ONE can get a word in! Lol...
- S