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Cannibal Clown Feb 16th, 2003 05:17 PM

Kenshin on Cartoon Network!
 
I just read this on ANN

According to Cartoon Network’s online programming schedule, Rurouni Kenshin will air weekdays at 6:30EST beginning March 17th. Although the online schedule has proven incorrect on occasion, it is very unlikely that a new acquisition would be posted unless broadcast plans had been secured, so viewers should expect to see Kenshin on television very soon.


Aint that cool!!

ssjtrunks13 Feb 16th, 2003 05:40 PM

That's sounds like good news to me. I'll be sure to watch for it.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 16th, 2003 06:35 PM

No, it sucks.

merylsilverburg Feb 16th, 2003 08:18 PM

My, I was just wondering when the US was going to do something like this. ;)
CC, do you happen to know if it's going to be on Adult Swim?

Well, this is pretty good news for people who aren't able to watch this wonderful series. But, the bad thing is if it's going to just be on CN and not Adult Swim, many parts are likely to be cut out....or it'll be cut out anyway. Not only that, but there are also some very boring episodes and I'm not sure if CN would actually show all 95.

I'm not too happy with this news....RK to me just seems like a series that shouldn't be put on TV...and they're probably going to show the dub version which is...okay, but the sub is much better. Ah, well...I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this turns out.

Nelo Angelo Feb 16th, 2003 08:22 PM

CN are the evil butchers of anime from hades/hell.

I hope they don't put Hellsing or Berserk on CN...........

merylsilverburg Feb 16th, 2003 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by Nelo Angelo

CN are the evil butchers of anime from hades/hell.

I hope they don't put Hellsing or Berserk on CN...........
Oh God, don't say it! >_<

I highly doubt that Beserk would make it to CN though. Beserk is a fairly old anime and it's style might not be too appealing to audiences. Sure, it's bloody and full of action, but...I don't know..I just don't think it will.

Hellsing might be a different story....though it could be on Adult Swim...it might be too dark and "frightening" to some people, since not all who watch Adult Swim are adults...

Vash Feb 16th, 2003 09:13 PM

Good thing, I don't like what CN does too animes, but I don't wanna miss out of seeing the series.

Nelo Angelo Feb 16th, 2003 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by merylsilverburg

Oh God, don't say it! >_<

I highly doubt that Beserk would make it to CN though. Beserk is a fairly old anime and it's style might not be too appealing to audiences. Sure, it's bloody and full of action, but...I don't know..I just don't think it will.

Hellsing might be a different story....though it could be on Adult Swim...it might be too dark and "frightening" to some people, since not all who watch Adult Swim are adults...

If they did put them on CN, they'd both be on Adult Swim. They'd probably instead of blood coming out of bodies it'll be nothing at all. o.o

The old version of Toonami > New version of toonami.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 16th, 2003 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by Vash

Good thing, I don't like what CN does too animes, but I don't wanna miss out of seeing the series.
I don't want to either. That is why I think it's an alright idea. as long as I see it I don't care.

merylsilverburg Feb 17th, 2003 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by Nelo Angelo

If they did put them on CN, they'd both be on Adult Swim.
The old version of Toonami > New version of toonami.
Oh, is that how it works now? I haven't watched CN in a while, so I'm not sure if they still have Toonami or if all animes just go into Adult Swim.

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They'd probably instead of blood coming out of bodies it'll be nothing at all. o.o
:laugh: That's probably what will happen. Reminds me of "The Big-O". On Toonami, they cut out the blood and some parts of the anime. On DVD, it's all in there.

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Originally posted by ssjtrunks13

I don't want to either. That is why I think it's an alright idea. as long as I see it I don't care.
Yes, that's why I said it's good they're doing this for the people who haven't seen it. But, some Rurouni Kenshin fans hate this because CN might cut stuff out. It's really sad because the RK series, though boring at times, have some really great parts. If they cut it off, you'll be missing a little part of the action. :(

Beretta55 Feb 17th, 2003 04:40 AM

I hate toonami. im really starting to lose alot of interest in anime because of them. they dont have anything i like anymore and curse them for taking off tenchi muyo! adult swim is good but i really dont watch it either. i would buy some DVD of these anime's but no cash......well i do have 90 doller's from my birthday......hmmmmmmmmm

ssjtrunks13 Feb 17th, 2003 01:04 PM

I don't think Adult Swim is on at 6:30pm at night. CN is showing .Hack on the weekend and there is also Zoids: CC and GF that comes on toonami. Anything on toonami with blood has the blood cut out, except for when Vegeta was bleeding on his forehead. I think they left that.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 17th, 2003 02:31 PM

Meryl, it's going to Toonami, meaning it's going to be butchered. I hear they're takin out all the blood and re-dubbing lots of it.

**** SPOILER ****(sorta)

Spoiler: show
Imagine what they'll do when Kenshin fights that dude who kills himself near the beginning of the series...hehe.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 17th, 2003 03:51 PM

Probably go to commercials at that time not showing you all of the scene.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 17th, 2003 06:28 PM

I also wonder how they'll redub conversations between Sano and Yahiko...hehehe...it's going to be funny to see what they do.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 17th, 2003 08:56 PM

Does that mean you are going to watch it just for laughs? I would, but I never saw much of it. Also, I would like to see what they do with the episodes I have seen.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 18th, 2003 12:41 AM

Yea, I'll probably watch it for laughs. I've got a good amount of the eps downloaded, and by the time they get to where I left off in the series, the box sets will be out and I'll have even less of a life because I'll be watching Kenshin 24/7.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 18th, 2003 11:09 AM

Well, I hope you have fun watching the episodes and getting agodd laugh at what horrible things cartoon networks has done to them. I'll only be able to do that with only the few episodes I saw.

Hadoken Feb 18th, 2003 01:58 PM

I just got the entire set, but I havent even started watching it yet, i'm about to put it in in a few minutes. Glad I dont have to watch it on CN, i just dont like it how things are edited on tv...:disturb:

Reid Feb 18th, 2003 07:35 PM

I've almost seen all of this show through fansubs so the Cartoon Network version would be sort of interesting to see now . . . not that I get that channel . . . buttt . . . I've never seen dubbed Rurouni Kenshin either.

The only Cartoon Network run dub I've seen is an episode of Outlaw Star . . . .

It was gawdawful, they had Gene wincing in pain and when blood was supposed to be on someone's hand as an indication of this it was just blank.

:P

That and the nudity was covered in badly doctored black briefs and bras on Gene and Melfina . . . .

Ugh, censoring.

merylsilverburg Feb 18th, 2003 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Suzuki_Fanboy

Meryl, it's going to Toonami, meaning it's going to be butchered. I hear they're takin out all the blood and re-dubbing lots of it.
NO! You have got to be joking! Omg...taking out all the blood? That's...that's...that's impossible! They can't do that! That'll just ruin the series! Oh man, I'm so ticked off. :frust: And what's the point of re-dubbing it anyway? The dub that comes on the DVDs were fine...this is really annoying. :disturb:

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Originally posted by ssjtrunks13

Does that mean you are going to watch it just for laughs? I would, but I never saw much of it. Also, I would like to see what they do with the episodes I have seen.
Well, since I've seen the entire thing, I would watch it for laughs and to see how much they screwed it up, but to tell you the truth, this is pissing me off. Rurouni Kenshin is such a great series and the way Toonami is going to mess it up so much...it's a disgrace. I really feel sorry for those who haven't been able to watch it and now watches these edited versions. :weep:

ssjtrunks13 Feb 18th, 2003 08:50 PM

Don't worry, I was planning on getting the DVD boxed sets as soon as I can.;) :cool:

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 18th, 2003 11:06 PM

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Well, since I've seen the entire thing, I would watch it for laughs and to see how much they screwed it up, but to tell you the truth, this is pissing me off. Rurouni Kenshin is such a great series and the way Toonami is going to mess it up so much...it's a disgrace. I really feel sorry for those who haven't been able to watch it and now watches these edited versions.
I agree wholeheartedly. People think it's good for them to get anime, but in actuality, it's not. It's horrible what they can do to a good series. Look at DBZ. An above average show in it's original Japanese form, a crappy show in it's CN form. Kenshin is a classic, and noted as one of the best anime ever...should not be edited. It's a masterpiece.

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I've never seen dubbed Rurouni Kenshin either.
Neither have I, but the original voices are so cool I don't see a need to watch the dub.

Hadoken Feb 19th, 2003 10:03 AM

Well, I've been watching some kenshin, and I can obviously see why people say its great. I think it'd just look horrible with the blood edited out on CN. So I just hope they don't air it. Doing so might just make people see the series as "crap", which it isnt. Take what suzuki_fanboy said about DBZ, the same could happen to kenshin. But I hope not.
Btw, I watched the samurai x: kenshin memories dvd's first, and it was just amazing, then I started watching the tv series, which is also great. But I noticed how himura kenshin's personality is different in both of them. Guess it was just added humor parts for the tv series. But how come the voice of the character sounds female? That puzzles me sometimes.

merylsilverburg Feb 19th, 2003 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Hadoken

Btw, I watched the samurai x: kenshin memories dvd's first, and it was just amazing, then I started watching the tv series, which is also great. But I noticed how himura kenshin's personality is different in both of them. Guess it was just added humor parts for the tv series. But how come the voice of the character sounds female? That puzzles me sometimes.
Well, if you've saw the OVAs first and then saw the TV, it's easy to see why the personalities are different.

Spoiler: show
Because Kenshin killed Tomoe (his first wife) and her fiance (the dude who died in the beginning) and his cross-shaped scar came from it, he promised to be a rurouni (a wanderer). He swore he'll never kill again.


The tone of the OVA is extremely dramatic and in the TV it's more light-hearted and "slapstick" mainly because Himura is a wanderer in the TV, while in the OVA, he's an actual samurai. He's...how would you say...."at peace" in the TV. Plus, in the TV, it's the Meiji era where it's a peaceful time. The OVA's setting was near the end of the previous era.

As for the voices, Himura's Japanese voice actor is a woman. Usually, for slightly feminine or feminine guys, they ask women to do the voices because only women voices can create that "soft and gentle" type of voice for those type of guys. Like Yahiko's voice actor is a woman too.


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Originally posted by Suzuki_Fanboy

Neither have I, but the original voices are so cool I don't see a need to watch the dub.
I agree, but the dub version is really quite good too. Actually, when I first watched Kenshin I watched the dubbed version and liked it for a while. The only reason why I saw the sub was because I couldn't wait for the VHS (yes, this was during the "VHS" period :laugh: ) so I went online and bought subs. Now, I do prefer the Japanese to the English, the but English really is great. Especially Yahiko's voice...terrific! It's so much alike to the Japanese, IMO. :)

ssjtrunks13 Feb 19th, 2003 11:01 PM

I had seen one DVD and I watched it without the subtitles because I end up reading them rather than watching what's going on above. I thought the voices were really good, especially Saito's.

merylsilverburg Feb 20th, 2003 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by ssjtrunks13

I had seen one DVD and I watched it without the subtitles because I end up reading them rather than watching what's going on above. I thought the voices were really good, especially Saito's.
I actually love Saito's voice in the original Japanese. :love:

Thinking about all these dubbing made me come up with another question: If they do decide to re-dub the voices, how will they do it? Will they call the original English voice actors or what? And, wouldn't it cost a lot of money to change a few parts here and there? I mean, if I were the voice actor, I would demand more money to do a re-dub since I already did it the first time for the DVDs.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 20th, 2003 12:45 PM

Are you talkig about for CN? If you are then all they do is take the tapes or DVDs already made and edit them their selves for television. That's why DBZ is going to be finished until sometime this spring or summer.

merylsilverburg Feb 20th, 2003 07:10 PM

Oh, is that how they do it? I didn't know that, thanks for the info! :happy:

Fox Feb 20th, 2003 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by Suzuki_Fanboy

No, it sucks.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 20th, 2003 09:25 PM

Meryl...the Samurai X: Memories OVA's are the same as the Seisou Hen OVA's...right? Or are they the same as Trust and Betrayal?

Thankfully, I haven't seen the Seisou Hen OVA's...I need to finish the series first.

merylsilverburg Feb 21st, 2003 02:19 AM

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Originally posted by Suzuki_Fanboy

Meryl...the Samurai X: Memories OVA's are the same as the Seisou Hen OVA's...right? Or are they the same as Trust and Betrayal?

Thankfully, I haven't seen the Seisou Hen OVA's...I need to finish the series first.
No, they're not the same. In Japan, the first Kenshin OVAs are called Tsuioku-hen and were released around 1998. In the US, they called it "Trust" and "Betrayal". These were created to show Kenshin's past.

Seisou-hen is the final OVA that comes after the TV...it is the final ending of the Kenshin saga. These OVAs came out in 2002.

It is best not to see Seisou-hen until after you've seen the TV and "Trust" and "Betrayal". I'm not saying it's forbidden, but it's just better not to.

Since Seisou-hen is an OVA, it has the same tone as the first OVAs ("Trust" and "Betrayal") so if you see it, don't expect a happy setting or atmosphere like the TV. I won't spoil anything, but let's just say it's quite depressing.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 21st, 2003 12:20 PM

Sounds interesting, thanks for the heaqds up.;)

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 21st, 2003 04:37 PM

So which ones are the "Memories" OVA's?

merylsilverburg Feb 21st, 2003 06:11 PM

Whoops, sorry for not answering your question....uh, fully. :right: The "Memories" OVA are "Trust" and "Betrayal"....since they show Kenshin's past, that's why in Japan it's called "Memories" or Tsuioku-hen.

Seisou-hen is the "Passing of Time" Arc.

Suzuki_Fanboy Feb 22nd, 2003 12:38 PM

Aye, thank you Meryl.

Preventer Wind Feb 23rd, 2003 10:30 PM

I can't take this bashing of Cartoon Network! Not that it is a godsend or anything but without it a lot of people would not be exposed to anime. And you have to look at the majority of people who watch Cartoon Network. Kids. Oh well, with that out of the way I'd like to say I'm looking forward to the series.

I noticed that CN does cut out a lot of blood and language (though Adult Swim is no where near as butchered as Toonami) But if you watch Reign: The Conqueror on Adult Swim you will notice a lot of blood.

merylsilverburg Feb 24th, 2003 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Preventer Wind

I can't take this bashing of Cartoon Network! Not that it is a godsend or anything but without a lot of people would not be exposed to anime. And you have to look at the majority of people who watch Cartoon Network. Kids. Oh well, with that out of the way I'd like to say I'm looking forward to the series.
True, but why bother bringing over anime that are slightly for teenagers and not really for kids? Like, before, when they used to show Sailormoon, Outlaw Star, and a few others (I forget), they censored a lot all because it was "too adult" for the audience, which were kids. But, why bother bringing it over then, and cutting out many things, then showing it? Might as well bring over something like Doraemon. It was only later when they started showing Pokemon, Digimon, and all the other harmless animes.

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I noticed that CN does cut out a lot of blood and language (though Adult Swim is no where near as butchered as Toonami) But if you watch Reign: The Conqueror on Adult Swim you will notice a lot of blood.
That's because it's on Adult Swim, where it's aimed for older audiences, so a lot of blood isn't an issue. That's why Cowboy Bebop was shown on Adult Swim. The problem with the Rurouni Kenshin series is that it might be shown on Toonami, where even a drop of blood isn't even shown. And, like Spike Spiegel, Kenshin and other characters get into fights and blood will be around. But if they censor it, then all the cuts on the bodies will be completely "bloodless". That's why I am against Kenshin being shown on Toonami. I mean, what about the fight with Shishio (for those of you who watched that far)? Is Kenshin going to be completely cut and bruise-free? :disturb:

Preventer Wind Feb 24th, 2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by merylsilverburg
True, but why bother bringing over anime that are slightly for teenagers and not really for kids? Like, before, when they used to show Sailormoon, Outlaw Star, and a few others (I forget), they censored a lot all because it was "too adult" for the audience, which were kids. But, why bother bringing it over then, and cutting out many things, then showing it? Might as well bring over something like Doraemon. It was only later when they started showing Pokemon, Digimon, and all the other harmless animes.
Good point. But I am not saying the kids don't like the blood and cursing. It's the parents I tell you! And who has the money and the power to win in court?

"Eat your peas and don't watch what your father is watching!" "Damn it Mom, I hate peas!" "Did you just say damn? Go to your room right now!"

I think the kids like the action and most parents are ok with that. But when blood starts flying around they get scared that their child will end up in prison for life. But what I was saying is that CN exposes a lot of people to anime and it has gotten a lot of people to go out and buy a lot of animes that will probably never make it to CN.

ssjtrunks13 Feb 24th, 2003 06:17 PM

The parents are my biggest concern, if it wasn't for them there would be a lot better stuff on TV. I thought I remember hearing there was going to be an anime channel on cable or satellite?


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