MGS 3 Discussion thread (spoiler warnings!!!)

[Vic Viper]

i got the game yesterday, already played a good amount of the game, 10 hours of play time to be exact. i could tell you now this is the best Metal Gear game yet, yep even better than the first imo.:D

i loved the sense of humour in this game like.. when i first started the game i selected " i prepare MGS2 " option. that got me a weird opening. i freaked out when i saw raiden on the plane, lucky it was snake with a raiden mask. and the part were you first meet up EVA was hillarious.:lmao:

i also like the whole interactive opening, the one that showed up after virtuous mission, like pressing L3 changes the text credits, and pressing R1 makes the woman whisper "Snake Eater". :)

the new addition that i realy like best is when you're holding up guards, you could interogate them, some will give you enemy guard positions, other will give you alert cancelation..etc.. really good stuff.:)

the only problem that i come across was the audio on some codec conversation is skipping abit, not really a big deal only happen once in a while. anyway thats all for now..

BEST GAME EVER !! Kojima = GOD :pimp:

[merylsilverburg]

i could tell you now this is the best Metal Gear game yet, yep even better than the first imo.:D

As much as I love MGS1, I think I would have to agree. As I said in the other threads, I'm so addicted I think I need an "MGS3" patch, LOL.

i loved the sense of humour in this game like.. when i first started the game i selected " i prepare MGS2 " option. that got me a weird opening. i freaked out when i saw raiden on the plane, lucky it was snake with a raiden mask. and the part were you first meet up EVA was hillarious.:lmao:

Yeah, I did the same thing you did (thanks to EGM) and I was laughing my ass off at the whole "R" thing. And the whole Eva thing cracked me up too (it's like, "Geez Snake, get a grip!" :lmao: )

i also like the whole interactive opening, the one that showed up after virtuous mission, like pressing L3 changes the text credits, and pressing R1 makes the woman whisper "Snake Eater". :)

*gasp* I didn't do this!! Oh no...I wonder if I can still do these?

the new addition that i realy like best is when you're holding up guards, you could interogate them, some will give you enemy guard positions, other will give you alert cancelation..etc.. really good stuff.:)

I only did this with a few...everytime I tried to hold one up, I always kill 'em instead. ^^;;; I panic too much and press too hard on the O button, LOL.

the only problem that i come across was the audio on some codec conversation is skipping abit, not really a big deal only happen once in a while. anyway thats all for now..

Yup yup...that annoyed me a bit too, but it doesn't happen later on...I think...haven't gotten very far.

[Beretta55]

I've only played an hour so far im right outside the building that supposedly holds sokolov i feel........so behind :shame:
but from what i played it was great, i love the jungle setting makes the game alot more interesting then constant small building areas in the other 2. The animal hunting wasnt as much as a bother i thought it was going to be, infact i killed at least 2 aligators with my knife. XD
But i also really, really suck at stealth since i havent played an MGS game in awhile. I also screw up when i capture somebody since i accidently slit their thoarts when i do it (since i press the O button too hard which triggers it) ah well. I'm loving para medics character with all her movie knowledge its excellent. :lmao:

[Reid]

I've only played the first little bit so far, about an hour or so in. It seems really good and the storyline looks to get very interesting.

My only complaints so far are the skipping codec (which at first made me think I had a bad copy or my Playstation was messing up), the way too long of an introduction and the time it takes to load up the Survival Menu. The issues reviewers talked about, in regard to the menu taking the player 'out of the game' really is valid. It just seems to mess up the flow a little bit.

Otherwise, everything seems spot on and I'm excited to get deeper into it. The graphics and sounds are really great and I love the alert and caution music this time around.

I also really want to read the spoilers but I'm afraid of ruining any part of the game.

:P

I don't believe I'll post anything story related until I'm finished playing it all the way through.

[merylsilverburg]

The animal hunting wasnt as much as a bother i thought it was going to be, infact i killed at least 2 aligators with my knife. XD

Wha-? How'd you do that? :blink: Everytime I tried, I always get knocked off my feet or something...XD

BTW, has anyone played the "Snake versus Monkey" game yet? I love the Codec conversation...made me laugh so hard! :roflmao:

My favorite quote:

"Why don't you make Sam or Gabe do the job?" :roflmao:

[Daniel Legge]

havent read mush of above posts cos of spoilers. I live in UK and dont think it will be out here for ages so consider yourself lucky you aint got to wait as long as we have :(

Is it good?

[Reid]

Snake vs. Monkey is pretty fun. It's entertaining to just watch the little bastards walking around through the jungle sometime. 'Almost makes me sad that they need to get shot and captured.

:D

I've played a few more hours now as well. The story is really picking up steam . . . the gameplay mechanics, when fully explained, are really neat as well. There are a lot of things to do in this game, even when not progressing storywise.

[Vic Viper]

reid its pretty safe to read what i wrote, nothing about it was relating to the main plot.:)

i just found out that if you use a tranquilizer gun during boss battles, you could get their camo suit after you beat the boss. i got THE FEARs camo, Spider Camo. its a great camo, only draw back is it drains your stamina bar hella quick. :lick:

btw, anybody notice those frog statues, i wonder whats the deal with those things ? it will probably unlock something . :confused:

[Reid]

I took the leap and read the spoilers. They spoiled nothing. Yay.

I was wondering about those frog statues too. The only one I've come across so far was one near the docks, sitting on a far ledge.

That's good to know, about getting Boss battle camoflauge by tranqualizing them. I was wondering if something like that would get thrown in.

The Boss fights in this game are really good as well. One aspect of MGS2 that I thought was really lacking was that there weren't so many really good Boss battles. This one seems to have them though.

[Beretta55]

Wha-? How'd you do that? :blink: Everytime I tried, I always get knocked off my feet or something...XD

BTW, has anyone played the "Snake versus Monkey" game yet? I love the Codec conversation...made me laugh so hard! :roflmao:

My favorite quote:

"Why don't you make Sam or Gabe do the job?" :roflmao:
It's pretty simple but is somewhat time consuming. All you do is tranquilizer the gator, then get into crawl position and press square and snake will jab his knife foreword. It doesn’t do much damage so it takes awhile but its the only way I have found out how to kill an alligator without using a lethal firearm.

[merylsilverburg]

Is it good?

Very, very, very good. :)

i just found out that if you use a tranquilizer gun during boss battles, you could get their camo suit after you beat the boss. i got THE FEARs camo, Spider Camo. its a great camo, only draw back is it drains your stamina bar hella quick. :lick:

Noo! Seriously? Oh man...I fought The Pain and only used the .45 gun...and used the tranquilizer on Ocelot. Darn it.

BTW, has anyone had their game freeze on them? Oh man, lemme tell you guys...I was pissed as hell. It was during the middle of The Pain boss and the game just froze. What sucked even more was...I forgot to save after the Ocelot boss. :shame: Stupid, I know. So, I had to do everything all over again. Argh!

btw, anybody notice those frog statues, i wonder whats the deal with those things ? it will probably unlock something . :confused:

Yes, I've noticed about 1 in every nearly area I've come across. When I first saw it (near the beginning of the game) I was laughing because it was so cute! Then I shot it. It makes a squeaking noise...kinda like a plush toy or something. If you shoot it near some guards, they'll investigate and then you can get rid of 'em. :D

It's pretty simple but is somewhat time consuming. All you do is tranquilizer the gator, then get into crawl position and press square and snake will jab his knife foreword. It doesn’t do much damage so it takes awhile but its the only way I have found out how to kill an alligator without using a lethal firearm.

Ahh, okay. But that would take a long time...gotta have a lot of patience for this, lol.

[Reid]

I haven't had my game actually freeze but it has done things like skip the background noise once in a while. It's kinda strange that so many copies have these problems . . .

Also, I took down an alligator once but it required probably 6-7 shots from the .45 to do it. Snake only finds them relatively tasty but you get 3 portions from each one.

[Vic Viper]

i thought the battle with The End was going to be a walk in the park, but it turns out to be one of the most memorable battle in the game..wow..

they were'nt kidding when they said this battle will last for hours. that was a crazy ass fight, all i know was it took forever to beat that old fart. i was using the tranq gun, its hard enough to find the old fart, yet he keeps healing his stamina bar on me, i tought i was gonna go crazy :frust. eventually i manage to figure out how to beat him. if i had to guess it probably took me an hour and twenty minutes to beat him, i got his sniper rifle after i beat him.

[Uchiha Sasuke]

This is the BEST GAME EVER. I cannot believe how emotional and beautiful this game was. First EVER GAME to make me CRY. The ending is soooo emotional. After I beat it I just could not believe what I went through. I thought Halo 2 was good but OMG MGS3..............MY GAME OF THE YEAR!!!

[merylsilverburg]

Just got through with The End battle...

It took me a perfect 1 hour to beat him...the tough part was finding him, even though I figured out I should use the thermal goggles to track him down. Somehow the guy really camouflaged himself well...and thankfully, he only refilled his Stamina bar once. So, after a few shots with the tranquilizer gun, it was over.

The boss that gave me the most trouble was The Fear. Okay...I was struggling. I died two times, then on the third try...BAM! It was all over! I seriously was gonna smash my controller to pieces...the final try was so unbelievably easy...and I wasted like a good hour trying to get him. Ooh, I'm still trying to recover even now...:mad:

[Reid]

The fight with The Sorrow was unbelievable. I'm not sure how close I am to the end but all sorts of really neat things are happening with the storyline now. Lots of explanation about the characters and everything.

This game has the most innovative Boss battles of the series I think.

[Oderus]

The best part is when you are on the motocycle with eva and you are shooting the shagohod really fun and intense.

[Reid]

I finished the game last night, playtime being just shy of 17 hours I think. The ending was absolutely incredible.

I was in shock by the wrap up of the game and the storytelling of the finale was extremely well done. This may be my favourite Metal Gear of the series now. I'm almost sad to be done it.

I can't wait for more people to finish it up so some discussion can start about this.

[Devil Snake]

...i finished the game day before yesterday .....it toook me 14 hours in normal difficulty .... Reid is absoluetly rite ...the ending was awesome

[Oderus]

Did any of you know, That the guy talking at the end of the game where it says "Metal Gear Solid 3" was Ocelot? Or am I wrong?

[Devil Snake]

Well from my point of view it was definately Ocelot....cuz he was the only bad guy who was left alive

[Vic Viper]

i finally did it, i finished the game. this has got to be the best gaming experience i ever had. what a game, what a unbelievable game..

BEST GAME EVER !!! :ghost:

[Vic Viper]

Did any of you know, That the guy talking at the end of the game where it says "Metal Gear Solid 3" was Ocelot? Or am I wrong?


yes it was him. use the spoiler tag next time, alot of people havent played the game yet. specially the Euro/PAL gamers. ok . :nono:

heres the tag, put this everytime you post something spoilerish..

VVV

[spoiler]

[/spoiler ]

[merylsilverburg]

Yes, as Vic said, please use the spoilers tag in the future or at least warn your message with SPOILER or ***SPOILER*** or something close to that. ^_^

Anyway, I finished the game today...and I'm very, very, very sad to have finished it...because I want more...:(

The bosses in this game are superb...this is the first MGS game where I want to encounter more bosses. Ahh..this Cobra Unit is spectacular...my favorite fights are probably The End and The Boss. My favorite character is The Sorrow...he was already my favorite before I even played the game...:D And his voice fits him very well...

Stupid b*tch Eva...I've always hated her for some weird reason...gee, I wonder why. :sarcasm:

Well...I'm disappointed as hell....I just want more...I'm itching for more...:weep:

I'm so pissed this game is not deserving the treatment it should. This game is definitely a 10/10, no doubts. No out of fanboyism or anything...but this game is just...perfect.

[MakgSnake]

Great game, simply amazing. And yes it made me cry at the end as well.

The story is scattered, so I think it'll take some time to put them into peices.

Sorry but I have to say this..

I know this game is amazing and it really did touch me from the inside, the Boss Battles blew me away and while I was playing against THE END, I know that battle would go into HISTORY of games as one of the best BOSS BATTLES, and it already has by many Websites and Magazines, neways............................... GREAT GAME and all, but still a part of me wanted to be "SOLID SNAKE" again for atleast a good 15 minutes in the game or something.

And I know meryl hates "EVA", but I think she is SOOO HOT and such a nice character, I know she betrayed Big Boss, but she herself didn't get shit in the end..................so yeah. I'll put more info on the game soon.

THIS GAME SIMPLY "RULES".

[Qjij_jijQ]

Just finished the game last night! :shappy:
I'm quite happy... but sad it's already over. ( 16 hrs ?!? )

High point of the game? The final battle against The Boss
Loved it... perfect environment, perfect climax, perfect end.

That's good stuff. :party:

[Vic Viper]

Sorry but I have to say this..
GREAT GAME and all, but still a part of me wanted to be "SOLID SNAKE" again for atleast a good 15 minutes in the game or something.



seriously. not once did i even think about solid while i was playing this game. after playing the game ive grown to love big boss' character, i really find his story much more interesting than solid to be quite honest. im really looking forward to playing more of him in future mgs games.:smirk: probably not going to happen though. :weep:

[merylsilverburg]

seriously. not once did i even think about solid while i was playing this game. after playing the game ive grown to love big boss' character, i really find his story much more interesting than solid to be quite honest. im really looking forward to playing more of him in future mgs games.:smirk: probably not going to happen though. :weep:
Me too...somehow Big Boss seemed to have more personality or something...don't get me wrong, I still love Snake, but Big Boss is just more colorful.

I'm quite happy... but sad it's already over. ( 16 hrs ?!? )

Tell me about it...*sits there rocking her knees wanting more*

And I know meryl hates "EVA", but I think she is SOOO HOT and such a nice character, I know she betrayed Big Boss, but she herself didn't get shit in the end..................so yeah.

I respect your opinion, but I just wanted to say: Yeah and I'm sure that was Kojima's purpose too...put a hot character and everything is A-OK. I mean, what is Kojima saying? All hot and sexy characters can be forgiven for being...oh I dunno...annoying? Big Boss lost his goddamn eye thanks to her...should've just let the b*tch die...oh and she did get something at the end...she got the film which contains the blueprints for the Shagohod...the one that Sokolov gave her. She got that and returned to China with it...so yes, she did get something.

There should be more women like The Boss, she completely rocks...she's one of my favorites, I love her so much.

[Reid]

The information she brought back to China was a fake though. She ultimately ended up with nothing.

I liked the character of Eva, however. At first I didn't at all but she grew to have more depth and the twists and turns of her character was really great. I liked the interactions between her and Naked Snake. The evolution of their relationship was handled much better than I thought it would be.

[merylsilverburg]

The information she brought back to China was a fake though. She ultimately ended up with nothing.

What? I thought the fake she brought back was the little chip of the Philosopher's Legacy...the one the contained the transactions of where all the money is kept. There was also the film that Sokolov gave her which is the real thing....otherwise, how can China have developed those nuclear weapons...at the very end, when the timeline was scrolling by, they said something about China being able to develop their own nuclear weapons.

Okay, maybe I got it wrong...'cause here's what I got from the whole thing (ugh, I'm tellin' you guys, my memory is terrible...)

Volgin hid the Philospher's Legacy somewhere in the vault of Grazjiny(sp?) Grad. This is why EVA was sent as a spy: to find out the location of the Philosopher's Legacy. Since at the very end, Ocelot said the item or whatever EVA took back was a fake, China doesn't have the Philosopher's Legacy, but she does have the film Sokolov gave her. I thought that since The Boss already knew EVA was a spy, she switched the Philosopher's Legacy before EVA could get it. But, Ocelot had already taken the real thing (otherwise, how could it be in his possession?) and replaced a fake one in its place. So, The Boss had taken the fake one with intention of giving it Naked Snake. So, when The Boss handed Naked Snake the PL at the end, she thought it was the real thing, but it was a fake. Then at the very end, when EVA ran off, she switched Naked Snake's PL with a fake one of her own, thinking she's got the real thing now. But it was still the fake one. Oh boy...that's what I got at least...hehehehehe...:right:

[Qjij_jijQ]

* * * S P O I L E R S * * *

As I recall, at the end... Ocelot talks about only having half of the Philosopher's money, no? From what I 'think' I understood, EVA ended up with a fake film and a part of the money only...

... weird. :blink:

BTW, when you meet with The Boss at the end, it looks like she fires a rocket 'behind' you and something blows up... but what?!? ( at first, I thought she had destroyed the plane w/ EVA, but that wasn't the case )

Also, it's just a theory, but... could it be the EVA is pregnant at the end?
( After... 'wrestling' with Snake all night... it would be cool, no? )

[Oderus]

* * * S P O I L E R S * * *

As I recall, at the end... Ocelot talks about only having half of the Philosopher's money, no? From what I 'think' I understood, EVA ended up with a fake film and a part of the money only...

... weird. :blink:

BTW, when you meet with The Boss at the end, it looks like she fires a rocket 'behind' you and something blows up... but what?!? ( at first, I thought she had destroyed the plane w/ EVA, but that wasn't the case )

Also, it's just a theory, but... could it be the EVA is pregnant at the end?
( After... 'wrestling' with Snake all night... it would be cool, no? )

Ocelot said that the KGB must have the other half of the philosopher's legacy.
The Boss fires the Davy Crockett at Groznji grad.
I'm not 100% sure that anything really happened that night but it would be cool if EVA is pregnant.

[Vic Viper]

IGN: Do you feel that with MGS3 you are tying up all the loose ends of the story of the trilogy?

Kojima: With the gameplay, the story, and even the skills of the guys on the team who've been working on the MGS series for the past 10 years I think we've been able to wrap up the trilogy.

IGN: What kind of role will you have in the next Metal Gear game?

Kojima: (laughs) There is no actual team that is working on MGS4 right now, but now that we've pretty much finished up MGS3 and if there are a lot of fans who want a MGS4 there will be one. There's planning going on in my head, but there is no staff working on it.

IGN: So for right now what is the staff doing? Is everyone about to go on a well-deserved vacation?

Kojima: We're still working on the European version right now. We're done with the U.S., Japanese, and Korean versions, but we still have the European version so the guys are still working on the game.

IGN: Will there be any gameplay differences between the U.S. version and the European one?

Kojima: We feel sorry for the American fans, but the European fans have to wait until the very end, and so to compensate for that we're going to add a few modes and some extra features for the European version.

IGN: Will we ever see those modes and features in America?

Kojima: In the past you've seen additional versions like Integral or Substance. It could happen, but we have no plans right now.

IGN: Can you say what any of these modes might be for the European version?

Kojima: We can't really talk about them now. One thing we can say now is that we will be adding a new difficulty level called the European Extreme. We've always added that in the past. It's a very difficult mode.

IGN: Do you feel like you've really nailed the Metal Gear Solid feeling of a game that is very fun the first time, but rewards players for playing through it multiple times?

Kojima: I always say when I come up with a new Metal Gear Solid game that it's a masterpiece, but this time I think we nailed it in terms of gameplay and in terms of volume as well because it's a big, long game. I think it is a masterpiece and Yoji Shinkawa is a critic and his evaluations can be pretty severe, but this time he thinks it's a masterpiece as well. (laughs)

IGN: That depth shows in the many different situations in the game that provide several different ways of going about solving them. I was curious as to which of these areas you feel best represents this open gameplay.

Kojima: I guess the battle with The End.

IGN: So where did the inspiration from The End come from? It's such a different boss battle from all the others that take place within much more confined spaces.

Kojima: I just wanted to come up with totally different boss battles for MGS3 such as for The End and also The Sorrow. I just wanted to do things that you don't see in other games. And one interesting thing with The End battle is that you can kill him earlier in the game. And so if you kill him there it's a boss fight that you don't have to fight. That's another thing you don't see in other games.

We've done sniping battles before as with Sniper Wolf, but you sort of know where she is so you try a few spots and you eventually get her. But this time we wanted to set it in a real jungle where you don't know where he is so you can fight for hours.

IGN: For people who have not played the demo beforehand and are coming into the game as a new experience there's a very steep learning curve. Was there a fear that that might be a turn-off for players?

Kojima: I always had these worries, especially introducing new game systems like camouflage, the food capturing, and the cure system. The CQC is fighting so I guess you can put that aside. These things are totally new to the players and I had to think of the right timing of when to give which game system to the player in the game so that's something I had to think of.

That's why in the game you can start out by changing your camo. The first enemies you see in the game are the crocodiles, there are no human enemies. That's where you can try out your food capturing for the first time. After that there are human enemies so you can use your camo when there are humans around you. And after that you don't even get to use the cure system, you don't get any sever injuries. Only after you enter Operation Snake Eater, then you get to treat yourself when you get injured severely. That's why we lay these things out separately early in the game so that people can learn them one by one.

IGN: I loved the fact that the tools are reduced in this game and that players need to use the sonar with the AP sensor and all of that. Was this decision to go back in time to a more limited system because it was too easy for people to use the radar system before?

Kojima: The series was turning into a radar game where you just pay attention to the radar and not use your visual senses or listening. That's what I wanted people to depend on instead of the radar so in the jungle I wanted people to listen to the grass moving or noise and so that's why I got rid of the radar.

IGN: Good decision.

Kojima: (laughs)

[Vic Viper]

IGN: With all of the change to the gameplay, why is the camera the same system as before? Why aren't players allowed to move around within a first-person or third-person perspective this time?

Kojima: As the game is wrapping up the trilogy, I didn't want to change that. Metal Gear Solid is about the top-view camera, the corner-view camera, and the first-person view camera. The fact that the player can switch through these three camera angles and these three angles give cinematic views and that is something that I did not want to change. Another reason is that if I brought the camera right behind the character I myself would feel 3D sick while I was testing the game. (laughs) In the next game, MGS4, you might see a change in the camera system.

IGN: Speaking of the camera, why does the camera go into a forced intrusion mode or first-person view while crawling through the grass?

Kojima: It's the intrusion mode that you've seen before when going through ducts or when you're in a cardboard box. We did it because we wanted the player to feel fear while they're hiding in grass. They're hiding in grass, but they can't see the enemy around them so I wanted them to feel scared when doing that.

IGN: So this was intentional limitation?

Kojima: If we did bring the camera up and you saw the enemy while crawling in the grass, there's no tension in hiding from the enemy.

IGN: I have a question for both of you. Who had the input in the creation of the different characters and bosses this time around?

Shinkawa: Mr. Kojima gave me all these key words, basically the emotions that soldiers feel in battle like The Fear, The Fury, and all those and I came up with some rough sketches. I also have an assistant, Miss Uchiyama. We came up with ideas together and presented them to Mr. Kojima.

Kojima: I basically come up with ideas for characters that would work in the gameplay. Like a boss character that fights like this and hops around in this manner and I present them to Mr. Shinkawa. Then Shinkawa comes up with the visual look of the bosses based on the ideas and the gameplay I require from these boss characters.

For example, The Pain. I first came up with this character who controls bees and also has bees inside him and spits out bees. I tossed that to Shinkawa and Shinkawa comes up with the visuals for this guy called The Pain where he has this huge backpack on his butt so he looks like a queen bee. And then I get an idea from Shinkawa and then I add on to that what kind of guy he would be.

Shinkawa: Initially, Mr. Koima told me that these bosses were supposed to be monsters or creatures while they're humans. When I came up with my initial designs they were too "monster-y." They weren't human so I ended up changing them. In the future sometime I would like to come up with some non-human creature characters.

IGN: Especially towards the end of the game there are several cinematic action sequences. Are there any specific movies or directors that you got inspiration from for this game?

Kojima: About three years ago team members went on an overnight field trip where we stayed the night at a hotel, brainstorming to try to come up with a bunch of ideas. We do this for all our games and when we did that the movie we saw together was Predator.

And you know there's a love scene between Snake and Eva ? My inspiration for that came from the first Pink Panther film. That's something I had Shinkawa watch. It came out a little different, but that's what I wanted to do.

Shinkawa: What we always wanted to do was give the 60's flavor. That's something we always wanted throughout the game and we saw a lot of old films from that time period. We also watched real documentary footage from the Vietnam War so we could give that flavor. And also the lighting of the 60's, especially in the cutscenes.

IGN: Speaking of those cutscenes, why is The Sorrow so happy to be showing the countdown for the bomb exploding towards the end of the game?

Kojima: First of all, The Sorrow faced The Boss two years ago and he chose death and is dead and remained in that area as a ghost. Now when Snake came in he snuck on to Snake and he's basically moving around with Snake and he was able to meet The Boss again so he's really happy to be with The Boss again. That's one thing and another is that he's been floating around in that area as a ghost and now that everything's been completed he's able to move on. To not linger on as a ghost, but move on to the next world. He's happy that his soul is at peace now.

IGN: We also heard yesterday that Kojima has mentioned the possibility of making a Metal Gear solid movie. Is there anything you could say about this?

[B]Kojima: (laughs) We don't know about that rumor. We get contacted every day, you know, "can we make a movie?" People just come up to me and say "Hi, Kojima-san, want to make a Metal Gear movie?" It happens every day.

ign (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/569/569922p1.html)

[Frozen]

NOTE: This post is full of spoilers. It is addressed towards gamers that have already beaten this game, so don´t bother reading if you haven´t finished it yet. I´m too lazy to put spoiler tags in every paragraph.



This is the best PS2 game ever done. Period.

And I will not discuss my comment with anybody.

Now, did I beat it too fast, or was it too short? It took me a good 17 hours to beat it (might have been more) but I´m talking in terms of weeks, it took me 2 weeks to beat it, when it has actually taken me months to beat the previous ones. Bu I guess that doesn´t count, what coutns is the actual timer, and it was approximately as long as it took me to beat the others for the first time, too. But I don´t know, I felt this game was shorter than the others.

There´s no need for me to repeat the wonders others have mentioned about it, although I find it funny that people say it took them hours to beat The End when it took me only a few minutes to do it, I figured soon that since the guy was camouflaged, the easiest way track him down would be thorugh heat, so it basically turned into a "follow the footsteps, then snipe him" fight. Oh, and I also killed his precious parrot at the very beginning of the battle, too, I don´t know if this had anything to do with me beating him so quick. It was pretty much the same with The Boss, and it´s useless to try CQC with her, too. Even though I believe that if you time it right you can turn the tables on her, it was by luck that I tried using CQC on her while she was going to do it to me and it was I beating her to the ground, but then I tried it again later and it just didn´t work. The snow uniform, the thermal goggles and the M60 all together worked perfectly, though.

I didn´t know about the deal with tranquilizing the bosses, I thought it´d just give you a better rating at the end of the game for no-kills, for which I didn´t care.

And now I´ve gotten spoiled with the ¨Patriot¨and kill all the bosses with it.

The frogs: yeah, what the hell are they for? Every time I see one I shoot it until it stops squeaking. (well, doing this basically means to empty all of your magazines on it, but with Patriot, no prbolem) And I believe that there is one in every single area that you go to, it´s just that some are better hidden than others, but I´ve spotted plenty of them. There was no mention of them after finishing the game though... so I don´t know.

The guy talking at the end, there is no doubt that´s Ocelot. It´s funny that I got to like someone I despised.

Ah, there is so much I´d like to talk about this game, so little time to post.

As I told meryl-chan before, The Boss is the baddest female I´ve ever seen in any movie, video game, or anime. Hands down.

[Major Harry]

I'm still trying to figure out where The Auscam, Flecktarn, Desert Tiger, and DPM camos are if anyone has got these items email me the locations at [email protected]

[Vic Viper]

I'm still trying to figure out where The Auscam, Flecktarn, Desert Tiger, and DPM camos are if anyone has got these items email me the locations at [email protected]


the only way to get them is if you buy the official mgs3 soundtrack. its only available in japan though. :(

[Ocelot Commander]

what is para medics real name, if u recall, at the beginning on codec, she says its Jane Doe, then says she'll tell u if you make it back alive, well, i made it back alive(i dont know if one peice) and she didnt tell me, WHAT IS IT!

[Vic Viper]

what is para medics real name, if u recall, at the beginning on codec, she says its Jane Doe, then says she'll tell u if you make it back alive, well, i made it back alive(i dont know if one peice) and she didnt tell me, WHAT IS IT!

nope she never did tell you her real name.

[Ocelot Commander]

I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT BLACK, SO DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT BEATIN IT

If you kill each boss non letheley, (Mark22), you will be awarded a special camo, ech has a unique quality, like fear, stealth, the end, his moss, the fury, fire camo, makes u invulnerable to fire, and so on.

I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT BLACK, SO DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT BEATIN IT

[TtTackler]

If you shoot all 64-some odd number of the Kerotan frogs you get a special camo. They carry over to the next game, so you don't have to go back and get the ones you've already gotten again when you start a new game.

Killing the bosses with the tranq only lets you get their camos.

You can't CQC the Boss because she is the master of it. The only time it works on her is while she is grabbing you, mash the buttons, and 90% of the time you'll counter her and you'll get a free shot.

[The Echuu]

If you shoot every frog in the game, you will get the famous Stealth Camo. Your Camo Index will be at 100% at all times.

[Vic Viper]

If you shoot every frog in the game, you will get the famous Stealth Camo. Your Camo Index will be at 100% at all times.


or better yet, just finish a game 0 alert.

you could also get Infinity Face paint by catching this mythical creature called the tsuchinoko.

:)

[Phenom]

Question.
I just recently rented this game, and I'm a bit skeptical on the animal killing. I have a weak heart when it comes to killing animals (I get real pissed off when I even hear a dog whimper/wimper), and so I was just wondering if I should be playing this game at all?

[Oderus]

Question.
I just recently rented this game, and I'm a bit skeptical on the animal killing. I have a weak heart when it comes to killing animals (I get real pissed off when I even hear a dog whimper/wimper), and so I was just wondering if I should be playing this game at all?

Well when that dog comes running at you in the game and attacks you, you will probally have a change of heart :lmao:

[Vic Viper]

Question.
I just recently rented this game, and I'm a bit skeptical on the animal killing. I have a weak heart when it comes to killing animals (I get real pissed off when I even hear a dog whimper/wimper), and so I was just wondering if I should be playing this game at all?

well you do have an option to not kill the animals. there are enough rations, instant noodles, and caloriemate in the game that could substitute as your food. or you could get The Ends camo and not worry about eating anymore. :crockett:

[The Echuu]

You can also gather a lot of fruit from the trees just by shooting a dart at them. In the very beginning, there are quite a few of green fruits that look a lot like pears. Snake really likes them, and they recover a lot of stamina. The problem with rations is that they taste terrible and don't recover you very well. But yeah, hunt for a lot of fruit if you don't want to kill animals.

[dan da man]

This games insane, I’ve done 14 hours on it now, and still going strong, got me addicted like mgs1 and mgs2.

The End boss took me a hour and 10 minutes lol, best boss fight up to yet.

Hmmm yes, this games damn good so far.

[Vic Viper]

told ya. trust me it gets better from there. :lick:

[dan da man]

s.p.o.i.l.e.r

Hehe, now im fighting The Sorrow, really creepy just bringing back memories through out the game, at the end of the river he says wake up, i punched him and died, what the hell do i have to do?

[Nelo Angelo]

You need to use the Revive Pill when he kills you.

It was given to you before you started your mission.

[dan da man]

Thanks, Any way I just completed Snake Eater, what can I say, its was absolutely amazing, the story all connects, better story then MGS1 and MGS 2 imo. hehe, true masterpiece.

[Vic Viper]

thats great dan. did you collect all the camos from the bosses ? :)

and btw what kind of mini games and unlockables did you get, all we got here in the u.s. version is Snake vs. Monkey mode. :shame:

[dan da man]

Hey Vic, the snake versus monkey mode was already playable without completing the game I think, I played the game in normal and got a shark rank, which i was rewarded with the patriot machine gun, tuxedo, camera, basics things really.

Lol I didn’t collect anything from the bosses, maybe because at the time i didn’t know you could (I tired to read not single review of snake eater and keep put of metal gear solid discussion threads) in case it ruined the story lol, anyway I’ll play through it on extreme soon, yeah I also unlocked European extreme, I remember on MGS 2 that was just to frickin impossible, anyway il check out all those secret camos and such on my next game I play!

[Vic Viper]

so theres no "BOSS Survival" or "Cut-Scene Threatre" on the Euro version ?

can you collect dog tags ? i miss the dog tag collection in mgs3. :shame:

btw, you can also get Ocelots Revolver. at the very end, if you choose the revolver on the right, you will unlock the revolver.:)

[dan da man]

Yes I unlocked them too.

As for the revolver I chose the left one so therefore you cant choose the unloaded gun? only the one with a bullet in!?

No you can't get dog tags in mgs3 in the euro version (so I think :D), cus when you kick the shit out of the boss her dog tag would of dropped like when you fought liquid snake in twin snakes on top of the rex his dog tag dropped.

Plus when I held someone up they never dopped tags, oh well.


EDIT - some s.p.o.i.l.e.r.s in there people.