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[MakgSnake]

Sony plans to release a game called "KIN" also known as Kill Zone which is suppose to be a HALO killer. Kin is being developed by the Lost Boys, a group out of the Netherlands, and here is what we know so far:

- the game will include multiplayer co-op online play, as well as various other 16 player modes.

- voice communication will be supported via the PS2's headset.

- the game runs at a constant 60 FPS and is said to be the best-looking PS2 title yet, even better than Gran Turismo 4 (?!).

- the control scheme will be similar to Halo. Imitiation is the sincerest form of flattery!

- streaming technology will be used to eliminate load times, ala Jak + Daxter.

- the "kill zone" term refers to a gameplay dynamic which would slow a player's targeting, giving them a slight advantage over other players.... is this first-person bullet-time? It's not known if this feature will be included in the final game as of yet.

- the game is rumored to use the Havok physics engine found in Half-Life 2.

- the game's soundtrack will be performs by a symphony orchestra.

- the targeted release date is sometime in Fall 2004.

Sounds pretty good to me. But a HALO killer?..... Hmmm......We'll have to see. The source says that whats more important is that if its going to be a HALO 2 killer.


The Source.

[Sleazy P Martini]

Halo killer? I've heard that one before. But then again...who can tell now. Regardless a new FPS is always welcome.

[mark0™]

meh, they shouldnt make big promises straight away.

Bullet time, sounds good, but heres something I've always wondered, how can you pull off Bullet Time in Multiplayer games? That would mean one player would be behind the other player in terms of Time if he were to use more bullet time than the other player. And it hurts my head to think about it

I think its a bad idea to try and copy and better a great game, its pretty sad actually. They should decide what game they want, what the want in it and how they are going to do it regardless of what other programmers do.

But I guess a bit or Rivalry will be good.

[Vic Viper]

sounds promising, hope turns out well.

[kupoartist]

its a bad idea to start off a game's publicity by making a direct comparison with another title. Not least because the game in question will be super-seeded by a Sequel, and probably Half-Life 2 (after Unreal 2, i'm not making any assumptions based on hype and pretty screenshots ). Furthermore, i'll believe it when I see it, so to speak.... 60fps, Havok Physics and good graphics are not somthing i'd expect the PS2 to be capable of. Valve certainly don't think so, otherwise you'd be seeing half-life 2 on the PS2 (though it is supposedly due for X-Box, which i'm sure is great news for some of you, if a little bit more of a blow to the "X-Box isn't a PC in a Box" brigade)... but perhaps its not impossible. And it would appear to be scheduled to give the PS2 a final push... if they see it as a bit optimistic, I expect it'll slip over to the PS3...

[dan da man]

It cant kill Halo, that game is old and a legend now, it can be certainly better, I hope it does turn out better than halo 2, so xbox are not the only ones with class FPS, but all in all it sounds promising, "the best-looking PS2 title yet".

[Zephyr]

It does sound like a very promising game to me but I just dont think it could overtake Halo but it could certainly be better than Halo 2. I didnt like that sequel at all.

[Vicious_2003]

All I have to say is HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA. I will belive it WHEN i see it. Till then ill give no more thought to sony trying (And probably failing) to kill Halo. Besides by then Halo 2 will be here and no ones kiling that

[MakgSnake]

I dont know.............I mean HALO is seriously an amazing FPS, and one can notice it when you play it multiplayer. But after looking at KIN's features........ it does sound like a Halo Killer.

- the game will include multiplayer co-op online play, as well as various other 16 player modes.

I know HALO 2 will be online, but will it contain Co-Op ONLINE feature?.?


- the game runs at a constant 60 FPS and is said to be the best-looking PS2 title yet, even better than Gran Turismo 4 (?!).

Well we all know that HALO didn't run at 60 FPS, but at 30. So Kin has that advantage for you. I think Halo 2 will be running at 60 Framerate/Seconds. I hope! Although them saying that it'll look better then GT4 is VERY VERY HARD to believe, but there is so much that can be done with PS2. They'll probably squeeze everything out from the machine.

But then I also need some shots to convince myself more.

[Beretta55]

Hey im up for any FPS im a huge FPS buff. Halo was great all it needed were bots. most of my friends dont have xboxes so we can do the huge 16 player matches. but if kin has some bots.....i'll be in fps muti-player heaven man

[Preventer Wind]

To be honest guys...the only feature that was stollen was the control setup....which will probably be customizable. And how you can have a control setup like a game on a different console that uses a different controller is beyond my knowledge. But it does not say it will be Halo ala Brute Force.... but it will be better..."Kill" Halo. Which unless it is released on every console plus the computer will never ever happen.

Obviously the game sounds great...if all that will be in the game. The chances of it coming out in fall 2004 I would say are slim. In fact they should scratch the game and make it ready for the ps3 launch. Because if what they say is going to be in the game...it will take a lot of time....and they could make it so so so much better for a more powerful machine. So good....that Halo 3 would have to be a KIN killer.

I though Halo was a good game...certainly not the greatest game of all time....or even close. And given the option to play Halo or Perfect Dark I wouldn't think about it... I would play Perfect Dark.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Preventer Wind
Obviously the game sounds great...if all that will be in the game. The chances of it coming out in fall 2004 I would say are slim. In fact they should scratch the game and make it ready for the ps3 launch. Because if what they say is going to be in the game...it will take a lot of time....and they could make it so so so much better for a more powerful machine. So good....that Halo 3 would have to be a KIN killer.

I though Halo was a good game...certainly not the greatest game of all time....or even close. And given the option to play Halo or Perfect Dark I wouldn't think about it... I would play Perfect Dark.

I agree, a PS3 release would be much better, but for it to be better than halo and halo 2 it needs better graphics, and I cant see the PS2 doing that, from the option and gameplay KIN sounds better. And like PW said it not the best game ever, I muched perfered Golden Eye to Halo.

[kupoartist]

notice how they're yet to comment on the integrity of the one thing that all good FPSs like Halo have always had in the past: Story!

regardless, PSXNation (the source for the abriged article)
https://www.psxnation.com/news/newsstory?idnumber=001368

from that, Most of the "facts" are actually just opinions of people who've (allegedly) seen the game in action. Who here has a function in their retina that allows you to accurately calculate how many FPS are being displayed? (whats more, its in Europe, and isn't 60hz actually being displayed, impossible?) They're just over excited dribblings, and I hope the game doesn't kill itself on its own hype like so many have before. Because it would be nice to have a decent FPS on the PS2 for once.

[Zephyr]

I dont know about you guys but I think they might go and do a Nintendo and release a version for the PSP as well.

[Preventer Wind]

Originally posted by the_artist
Who here has a function in their retina that allows you to accurately calculate how many FPS are being displayed? (whats more, its in Europe, and isn't 60hz actually being displayed, impossible?) They're just over excited dribblings, and I hope the game doesn't kill itself on its own hype like so many have before. Because it would be nice to have a decent FPS on the PS2 for once.

Well I know from what I have heard a lot of people wish Halo had run on 60hz....so I don't think it is impossible.

And a lot of games have been killed by so much hype...so It's not good to start off with all this about it being a Halo killer.

[Azuma_Ninja]

Nothing will top Halo especially something from the PS2. Now don't take offense to that I love my PS2 but it's not going to compete with the x-box's overall power. I've never liked the ps2 controller for FPS anyway. But if it does top Halo, Halo2 is coming soon so good luck KIN.

[Zephyr]

Im sorry but HALO 2 does not look all that good to me. Yes, the box has god overall capability but dont forget its still the second best console in the wrold for power - that would have to be a brand new PC. But wahtever lets not arue. I think KIN might be good but not as good as Halo, maybe as good as Halo 2 seeing what ive seen so far though.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Zephyr

Im sorry but HALO 2 does not look all that good to me.

What ever floats your boat mate. I know we havent seen much, but the footage ive seen, it looks better than the first.

[MakgSnake]

Killzone will have several multiplayer options, online play, and use NURBS instead of polygons.

I just read that at IGN. and they are also saying that this game is getting the hype of a lifetime. But what is Nurbs?....is it the one known as Non-Uniform Rational B-Splines (Nurbs). The true defination..

The NURBS has excellent continuity characteristics
which make it useful for creating accurate models in 3D
geometry generation and computer modelling.

Sounds pretty amazing to me atleast. And oh by the way the game will not be called "KIN" but "Killzone"......thats the actual name. I think KIN was a nick given by just somebody to keep the actual name hidden.

[Vic Viper]

^^^ cool, great news Makg. I am dying to see how this game turns out.