Xenogears

happy_doughnut · Mar 15th, 2003, 04:21 PM

Yeah, yeah... say what you want

Anyhow, I'm *barely* playing Xenogears since I wasn't able to get this game until just recently and also 'cause RPGs with mechs. don't really appeal to me. =/

I started last night and I'm at the part where you have to fight those Gebler troops and Elly.
I've only gotten as far as to beat the first two sets, but can't beat Elly. By the time I actually get to the Vierge, my HP is around 1000 and have have hardly any fuel left (try 100 -_-).
I looked at a walkthrough *shame* and it says that Fei can take out one from the first set with 3 or 4 X button attacks and the other with 1 or 2 level 2 combos. That's not true !!. The X button attack ONLY does like 40 in damage and the level 2 attacks do like 150 ! It takes foreva ! Then in the second fight, I have like 2300 HP and medium-ish fuel. In the FAQ, it says that one of the 3 has 300 HP and should be knocked out in 1 combo. This is not so... it takes so long with weak X attacks like 30, and 2 turns to build up the level 2 attack.

Then Elly... well, hell. I'm all dried from the rest and she uses that Aerods attack every two turns. Oh, and ANY normal attack takes away 0.
Then the level 1 and 2 attacks take away 50 and 70.
She's supposed to have 2000+ HPs... how in bloody hell am I gonna get passed it ?

help !

Sword 4 Hire · Mar 15th, 2003, 04:54 PM

Have you bought upgrades for your mech?

Also I'm glad to hear that your playing...tis one of my favorite RPG's

Nelo Angelo · Mar 15th, 2003, 05:35 PM

Upgrade your mech.

If you're not doing much damage then that means your Power Output is low(I'm guessing that was it because I haven't played in a LONG time).

The monsters in the cave give lots of money and exp.

Infernal Mass · Mar 15th, 2003, 06:21 PM

i'd help, i really would.. but i'm playing Xenosaga right now. It's only 50 million times better.

DigiMortal
- wooo!

plus scroll-

that battle was tough i remember it..

happy_doughnut · Mar 15th, 2003, 11:24 PM

Yeah... Nelo said the first disk was pretty long...
I'm not sure, but I might not even finish it if it keeps going as is

Well, I'm pretty sure Weltall has the *newest* upgrades. I bought the ones that inhanced it the best, so I don't know why it's still attacking so weakly.

I think I'll give it another go... meh.
How about you guys ? When you played it, was Weltall attacking the way my handicap mech. is ?

Quote:

Originally posted by DigiMortal

plus scroll-

Infernal Mass · Mar 15th, 2003, 11:26 PM

yeah it was a pretty long game for a double disc title.

DigiMortal
- Imagine if it was a 4 disc game

Sword 4 Hire · Mar 16th, 2003, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigiMortal

i'd help, i really would.. but i'm playing Xenosaga right now. It's only 50 million times better.

DigiMortal
- wooo!

50 millions times better...dear lord i think not...

but eh we all have our opinions

Yeah ZS...check and see if you do have the right upgrades, cause you shouldn't be hitting that weakly, and stick with it, the story will definately grow

Nelo Angelo · Mar 16th, 2003, 01:15 AM

Well Zero, you should check with the FixBot at the end of the cave if Weltall is up to date.

But when I fought them, I think I was doing like in the hundreds with my X attack, I can't remember.

Hero · Mar 16th, 2003, 02:25 AM

50 million times better? More like 50 million times worse... Than Simpsons Road Rage.

I seriously think the cutscenes in this game are terrible, and before you start arguing it, I am already 25 hours into the game, and I'm hating it because the better half of those 25 hours was all cutscenes. Cutscenes... Cutscenes... Cutscenes...

Xenogears is a GREAT game, and you'll love the plot twists.

Beretta55 · Mar 16th, 2003, 07:21 AM

I havent even played Xenogear's. what can i say im not very up to date on rpg's

i will probally buy the game. now it's probally a decent price of 20 buck's. now i just need to find my old psone memory card.

Infernal Mass · Mar 16th, 2003, 01:46 PM

ok, ok everyone, i know xenogears is good.. i'm just terrorizing Mena's thread.

Quote:

50 million times better? More like 50 million times worse... Than Simpsons Road Rage.

yeah, or not.

DigiMortal
- how about army men, is it better than army men?..Sarge's Heros?..3DO?..

Sword 4 Hire · Mar 16th, 2003, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hero

50 million times better? More like 50 million times worse... Than Simpsons Road Rage.

Dude, that was the worst comparison ever...

happy_doughnut · Mar 16th, 2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DigiMortal

ok, ok everyone, i know xenogears is good.. i'm just terrorizing Mena's thread.

Ah, you evil little heifer

You're supposed to be helping me !

Okay, I think I'll check the stats. with the Fixbot. But I could have sworn I did all necessary upgrades beforehand. Hm..

- Army men...

That game's badass ! Whatcha talking 'bout ?

XboxKiller · Mar 17th, 2003, 02:33 PM

I beat the game a long time ago but I remeber I was stuck where you are stuck. theres just one way your gonna be able to beat them and that one way is RAISE SOME FRIGGIN LEVELS. trustttt
meeee thats what I did and it worked.

(and xenosaga is better than xenogears. whats wrong with the long cutscene, I just grab me a sandwich relax and enjoy them)

(but I guess thats just me )

Sword 4 Hire · Mar 17th, 2003, 04:00 PM

If my memory serves me correctly, for its been awhile, I thought leveling didn't matter when in mechs?

I could be thinking of somethin else though...

Darkness 4 Hire · Apr 2nd, 2003, 11:31 PM

I will no take credit for s4h's playing of xenogears. Because i am indeed the Guru of RPGs!!!!

Esjay · Apr 11th, 2003, 07:19 PM

I had some trouble with this battle, but it only took me 3 tries. You have to turn your booster on during the battle with Elly, make sure you have some Frame HPs to use to restore your gear's health, too. The trick is to hit her with X attacks until you get up to attack level 3, then use your best attack, and heal with Frame HPs. Make sure you keep your booster on, that usually defines the outcome of the battle.

Xenogears is the greatest game ever created, by the way. I just found the copy my friend loaned me today and I started playing again. If you think those bosses are hard, just wait till you get to the second disk. There's a boss that decreases everyone's health to 1 at the beginning of the battle.

That game has some sweet moves in it though...just wait till Citan gets his sword

Mar 15th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#1
happy_doughnut just a rolling stone Joined: Apr 2002 Location: of what? Posts: 1,561	Xenogears Yeah, yeah... say what you want Anyhow, I'm barely playing Xenogears since I wasn't able to get this game until just recently and also 'cause RPGs with mechs. don't really appeal to me. =/ I started last night and I'm at the part where you have to fight those Gebler troops and Elly. I've only gotten as far as to beat the first two sets, but can't beat Elly. By the time I actually get to the Vierge, my HP is around 1000 and have have hardly any fuel left (try 100 -_-). I looked at a walkthrough shame and it says that Fei can take out one from the first set with 3 or 4 X button attacks and the other with 1 or 2 level 2 combos. That's not true !!. The X button attack ONLY does like 40 in damage and the level 2 attacks do like 150 ! It takes foreva ! Then in the second fight, I have like 2300 HP and medium-ish fuel. In the FAQ, it says that one of the 3 has 300 HP and should be knocked out in 1 combo. This is not so... it takes so long with weak X attacks like 30, and 2 turns to build up the level 2 attack. Then Elly... well, hell. I'm all dried from the rest and she uses that Aerods attack every two turns. Oh, and ANY normal attack takes away 0. Then the level 1 and 2 attacks take away 50 and 70. She's supposed to have 2000+ HPs... how in bloody hell am I gonna get passed it ? help !

Mar 15th, 2003, 04:54 PM	#2
Sword 4 Hire Retired... Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Swamp hill. Age: 37 Posts: 1,632	Have you bought upgrades for your mech? Also I'm glad to hear that your playing...tis one of my favorite RPG's __________________ and for now the tired soldier sheathes his sword...

Mar 15th, 2003, 06:21 PM	#4
Infernal Mass pariah Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,385	i'd help, i really would.. but i'm playing Xenosaga right now. It's only 50 million times better. DigiMortal - wooo! plus scroll- that battle was tough i remember it.. __________________

Mar 16th, 2003, 02:25 AM	#9
Hero Lost Hero Joined: Mar 2003 Location: California... For now... Age: 40 Posts: 225	50 million times better? More like 50 million times worse... Than Simpsons Road Rage. I seriously think the cutscenes in this game are terrible, and before you start arguing it, I am already 25 hours into the game, and I'm hating it because the better half of those 25 hours was all cutscenes. Cutscenes... Cutscenes... Cutscenes... Xenogears is a GREAT game, and you'll love the plot twists. __________________

Mar 16th, 2003, 07:21 AM	#10
Beretta55 Reached for the sky Joined: May 2002 Location: The road less traveled Age: 34 Posts: 2,465	I havent even played Xenogear's. what can i say im not very up to date on rpg's i will probally buy the game. now it's probally a decent price of 20 buck's. now i just need to find my old psone memory card. __________________

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Mar 15th, 2003, 05:35 PM	#3
Nelo Angelo Victory is Mine! Joined: Dec 2002 Location: :O Age: 36 Posts: 530	Upgrade your mech. If you're not doing much damage then that means your Power Output is low(I'm guessing that was it because I haven't played in a LONG time). The monsters in the cave give lots of money and exp.

Mar 15th, 2003, 11:26 PM	#6
Infernal Mass pariah Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,385	yeah it was a pretty long game for a double disc title. DigiMortal - Imagine if it was a 4 disc game

Mar 16th, 2003, 01:15 AM	#8
Nelo Angelo Victory is Mine! Joined: Dec 2002 Location: :O Age: 36 Posts: 530	Well Zero, you should check with the FixBot at the end of the cave if Weltall is up to date. But when I fought them, I think I was doing like in the hundreds with my X attack, I can't remember.

Mar 17th, 2003, 02:33 PM	#14
XboxKiller Registered User Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 55	I beat the game a long time ago but I remeber I was stuck where you are stuck. theres just one way your gonna be able to beat them and that one way is RAISE SOME FRIGGIN LEVELS. trustttt meeee thats what I did and it worked. (and xenosaga is better than xenogears. whats wrong with the long cutscene, I just grab me a sandwich relax and enjoy them) (but I guess thats just me )

Mar 17th, 2003, 04:00 PM	#15
Sword 4 Hire Retired... Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Swamp hill. Age: 37 Posts: 1,632	If my memory serves me correctly, for its been awhile, I thought leveling didn't matter when in mechs? I could be thinking of somethin else though... __________________ and for now the tired soldier sheathes his sword...

Apr 2nd, 2003, 11:31 PM	#16
Darkness 4 Hire Hero of Darkness Joined: Sep 2002 Location: In between the depths of Time Age: 40 Posts: 122	I will no take credit for s4h's playing of xenogears. Because i am indeed the Guru of RPGs!!!! __________________

Apr 11th, 2003, 07:19 PM	#17
Esjay ::Viewtiful:: Joined: May 2002 Location: Nisan Sect. Age: 36 Posts: 508	I had some trouble with this battle, but it only took me 3 tries. You have to turn your booster on during the battle with Elly, make sure you have some Frame HPs to use to restore your gear's health, too. The trick is to hit her with X attacks until you get up to attack level 3, then use your best attack, and heal with Frame HPs. Make sure you keep your booster on, that usually defines the outcome of the battle. Xenogears is the greatest game ever created, by the way. I just found the copy my friend loaned me today and I started playing again. If you think those bosses are hard, just wait till you get to the second disk. There's a boss that decreases everyone's health to 1 at the beginning of the battle. That game has some sweet moves in it though...just wait till Citan gets his sword

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