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[Harry]

Originally posted by Bogart

I love so much the MGS storyline... but if there is a thing I can't understand is... XXXXXXXXXXXXXX Don't you think is a kinda stupid thing?

Speaking of Snake Eater: I'm sure Kojima will show us a sort of double adventure - imagine how'd be cool to see the two Snakes fighting the Patriots at the same time. And I have a final thought: on my opinion, for the series to be perfect, Kojima should have the courage to make Solid Snake die in this third episode: just think about it - Liquid in the first, Solidus in the second, Solid in the third. The tale would have some sort of heroic pattern in it in this way...

P.s. I also didn't read Mark0's post yesterday! Maybe some error in the time?

Bogart, remember to mark your spoilers.

[kupoartist]

Bogart, here is the explaination : https://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php...01-11-30&res=l

(hehe... perhaps they were a bit harsh )

[Dark Angel]

Yay, Penny Arcade strikes again!

[kupoartist]

Originally posted by Dark Angel
Yay, Penny Arcade strikes again!

yes, its a rather bad habit of mine to post these strips isn't it

[MakgSnake]

Yeah I read that Penny Arcade joke in Playstation Official mag, when the game came out.

[Infernal Mass]

Originally posted by Bogart

I love so much the MGS storyline... but if there is a thing I can't understand is...

Spoiler: show

why on earth should Revolver Ocelot speak like Liquid just because he had his arm transplanted????????

Don't you think is a kinda stupid thing?

Speaking of Snake Eater: I'm sure Kojima will show us a sort of double adventure - imagine how'd be cool to see the two Snakes fighting the Patriots at the same time. And I have a final thought: on my opinion, for the series to be perfect, Kojima should have the courage to make Solid Snake die in this third episode: just think about it - Liquid in the first, Solidus in the second, Solid in the third. The tale would have some sort of heroic pattern in it in this way...

P.s. I also didn't read Mark0's post yesterday! Maybe some error in the time?

that would be interesting. i think part of the reason why kojima came up with the raiden character, was because he was going to kill off snake.

he was injected with fox-die afterall. it's just a matter of time until he does die, unless he finds a cure somehow? which is inevitable now that we all know nobody really cared for raiden.

[Zephyr]

Good views Digi (or do you prefer DigiMortal?). I personally would like to see Snake survive becasue I didnt really like Raiden in the first place. He was just brought in to see the publics reaction/opinion in my view but who knows? But if Soid was to die I would probably lose interest in the game.

[Infernal Mass]

everyone usually just calls me digi.

MGS2 would've been alot better if it had snake as the main character throughout. i can understand what kojima was trying to accomplish by bringing in a rookie type character. Although a battle between solidus and solid snake would've been an excellent way to end sons of liberty.

[mark0™]

Originally posted by DigiMortal

everyone usually just calls me digi.

MGS2 would've been alot better if it had snake as the main character throughout. i can understand what kojima was trying to accomplish by bringing in a rookie type character. Although a battle between solidus and solid snake would've been an excellent way to end sons of liberty.

But, Snake didnt really know Solidus. Raiden had history with him, Solidus turned Raiden into what he is, and he hates what he is. Solidus killed his parent too didnt he? So Raiden Killing Solidus Seems more appropriate.

I think people love Snake a litle too much. Raiden wasn't that bad. He wasn't that good neither...

Not really on topic, but how many clones resulted from the "Les Infants Terribles" (Not sure if thats spelled right, wasnt great at French). Theres Snake, Liquid and Solidus. Is there anymore? The Next will probably be called something stupid like "Gaseous Snake"

[MakgSnake]

Originally posted by mark0™

Not really on topic, but how many clones resulted from the "Les Infants Terribles" (Not sure if thats spelled right, wasnt great at French). Theres Snake, Liquid and Solidus. Is there anymore? The Next will probably be called something stupid like "Gaseous Snake"

From Big Boss's DNA, six testube babies were created, out of 6, three couldn't live through the first few days. Liquid thought that four of the six babies were deciesed. He was wrong......which means any of the us could be wrong, may be the other 3 lived through as well, who knows eh!!

As for why Raiden was brought in MGS2, was because of the reasons mentioned above (To surprise people and shock people), but more then "I THINK", to give a lead character to the "Metal Gear Solid" series, we all know that Raiden (If not soon) will return as a HERO in the future Metal Gear games. I think of it that the day Kojima "ACTUALLY" stops making Metal Gear games and hands the project to someone else "completely"...... the RAIDEN stories will start...... and he would get a new getup, and I think people will be pretty happy to see him make a return after so many years. I know I would.

Oh, and about the three other babies that didn't make it. I think the best show down will be of "Solid Snake" Vs "Solid Snake", and I mean not like Liquid or Solidus but another Solid Snake himself (one of the other babies). I still think it wouldn't top the fight between Big Boss and Solid Snake again. Still actual good "Snake" Vs, another "Snake" would be cool.

[Zanku]

Well, we might see Raiden again...but Kojima only put Raiden in so that we could see Snake in a different perspective, and that after playing as a Beginner, Snake would look so much more impressive! To be honest i would rather not play as Raiden again, i'd prefer to be playing as Snake...
Raiden was just an odd bean in the series, all the past FOX-HOUND members were given codenames consisting of something personal, and an animal they identify with, here they are -

Solid Snake
Liquid Snake
Solidus Snake
Revolver Ocelot
Vulcan Raven
Sniper Wolf
Psycho Mantis
Decoy Octopus
Gray Fox

And then we have Raiden... w00t, sure pushed out the boat thinking up that They should of called him something cool...like Gray Fox or Decoy Octopus.......those are damn cool codenames...wtf is Raiden all about?. I like the way that he has girls eyes, on the making-of dvd the guy who made the computer generated Raiden said he gave him girls eyes, heh!

Enough about Raiden, i tell you who i want to see - Master Miller!! I hope we see him training up Snake in survival, that'd be really cool, even if he isnt in much of the game, a small appearance would be cool, i liked Master Miller

Spoiler: show

(damn Liquid killing him!)

[MakgSnake]

Originally posted by Zanku


Enough about Raiden, i tell you who i want to see - Master Miller!! I hope we see him training up Snake in survival, that'd be really cool, even if he isnt in much of the game, a small appearance would be cool, i liked Master Miller

Spoiler: show

(damn Liquid killing him!)

True, I would like that too, but please mark your spoilers. Especially as Twin Snakes is coming soon.

[Zephyr]

I know its annoying but thats the way Kojima decided to play it. If that hadnt happened to Master Miller he would've returned probably at some point. Anyways unfortunatley "I live on through this arm" ooh I wanna shoot you dead.

[Zanku]

Im sorry MakgSnake, totally forgot...and thats quite a large twist I'll make sure i think more next time.

[MakgSnake]

Originally posted by Zanku

Im sorry MakgSnake, totally forgot...and thats quite a large twist I'll make sure i think more next time.

Its cool, just be careful. . Metal Gear is a beautiful story, the last thing we all could do is spoil it.

[Zanku]

Definately! Have you seen the making of DVD? It was with MGS2? Kojima is really thoughtful about his games, he tries to add alot of genre codes into his games, like Olga and Snake being like a Cowboy or Samurai film (Tanker fight). Even those it is original and cool, the way he had Jack and Rose, and a sinking ship, to relate to the Titanic film, was kinda odd... I really didnt like Rose, she was annoying, and she talked for way too long (i usually skip her dialogue)

Mega MGS2 Spoiler-

Spoiler: show

Did Snake ever meet the Colonel in person? Was he ever a real person...or always a computer program? I never understood that part...

[dan da man]

Yea Zanku that DVD was amazing! Kojima puts alot of love in and his team, the bit about the colonel makg can explain fully, but Snake/Pliskin never met him, he was part of the programme, it was never Roy Cambell.

[Zanku]

Okay, well reply here https://www.ps2fantasy.com/forums/sho...&threadid=6249 This thread seems to be going off topic abit!

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Zanku

Okay, well reply here https://www.ps2fantasy.com/forums/sho...&threadid=6249 This thread seems to be going off topic abit!

What with 6 pages? I think its doing quite fine, but I will check your thread out.

[Infernal Mass]

Originally posted by dan da man

Yea Zanku that DVD was amazing!

I still need to get that..is it sold seperately? How long is it?