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[dan da man]

Yea, I used a end of a pencil i think.

[ssjtrunks13]

That wouldn't ahve worked for me. My problem was my finger got tired after only a couple of seconds and I found that what I did may have got me done to one more suction aqnd I would have died but at least I got past the part. After that Solidus isn't too hard.

[dan da man]

So you completed the game now on hard mode?

We should start extreme mode together to help each other out, but give it a while yet.

[ssjtrunks13]

So we should take a break after doing hard because EXTREMe will be harder and we don't want to play it as frustrated as we are from the annoying Harrier and Solidus parts. That's a great idea, just let me know when you're ready. Also, I may be trying to get the dog tags so it'll take me a while. After that if your interested we can try the big boss rank thing and How do you get all that stuff to show up at the end? because all I've seen is some of that.

[dan da man]

cool, I would like to collect all the dog tags too, going to be some challenge, so we do extreme? then after that the bigboss ranking? ahhhhhhh

[ssjtrunks13]

Yeah, sounds like a plan. Now we need to estimate how long all that will take. We'd need a lot of practice in order to the Big Boss rank, when the time ocmes I will give you the page where the guide is.

[dan da man]

Ok we will practise in the mean while for aiming at the big boss rank.

[ssjtrunks13]

Here is the place to go for the guide, you might want to save it as a text document and read it because you will have to scroll a lot if you view it in the web page.

It's on gamefaqs.com, all you have to do is search for Metal Gear Solid 2 and click on 'FAQs' and then look for the guide that has 'Big Boss rank" in the title.(I checked it out while writing this and I'll have to wait to get you the exact page if you would like me to.)

[dan da man]

Just checked that link up put up, trunks, its good, that will help us alot, Im going to ask around now, seeing how many people have completed it on Extreme or got the big boss rank, you should too, then too know or not if its just me or going on a sucide mission to get the bigg boos rank.

[ssjtrunks13]

Originally posted by dan da man

Just checked that link up put up, trunks, its good, that will help us alot, Im going to ask around now, seeing how many people have completed it on Extreme or got the big boss rank, you should too, then too know or not if its just me or going on a sucide mission to get the bigg boos rank.

Yeah, it will. I was also thinking it is going to be some suicide mission that's going to make us crazy trying to achieve it. It's probably a plot laid by the FAQ writer.

[Esjay]

Forgive me for intruding, but can I ask you guys why you want to get the Big Boss ranking so badly? I mean I've done it a couple times, but you don't actually get anything for it...so why? I mean there's the bragging rights and the pride and everything, but the game doesn't even acknowledge that you got this rank in any way, it just tells you you got the ranking like it's no big deal, and getting the Big Boss rank is no easy feat. I just think you shouldn't waste your time, that's all. But if you still want to do it, good luck to you. Also, if you turn the Radar off, your chances of getting the rank improve, by like 20%. I thought that would help.

Good luck to you.