Sony's KIN, a Halo Killer!? - Page 2

Vic Viper · Jun 12th, 2003, 06:07 PM

scan quality is bad, though.

https://www.videogamerx.net/bbs/data/vx01/killzone1.jpg

MakgSnake · Jun 12th, 2003, 10:48 PM

From the pic above, it seems like the character is hitting the gaurd with his gun, just like the way done in Halo. Hmmmm....... I sat far away from the screen to see what was going on, and it looks pretty cool. If the whole game is just beautiful and lets you do stuff that no other game have. This would be a nice game. And then I would buy it.

dan da man · Jun 14th, 2003, 07:21 AM

Nah, I thought about it, the ps2 wont be able to handle that type of game, it might live up to its hype, it may be good, but it wont be a halo 2 killer.

Vic Viper · Jun 14th, 2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by dan da man

Nah, I thought about it, the ps2 wont be able to handle that type of game.

why not ?

dan da man · Jun 14th, 2003, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Vic Viper

why not ?

Well I cant support what I said, becuase ive seen nothing of KIN yet, if the ps2 cant run halo, how can it run a halo 2 killer.

Vic Viper · Jun 14th, 2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by dan da man

Well I cant support what I said, becuase ive seen nothing of KIN yet

i rest my case.

dan da man · Jun 14th, 2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by Vic Viper

i rest my case.

Yep, lets just wait and see.

kupoartist · Jun 14th, 2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by dan da man
Well I cant support what I said, becuase ive seen nothing of KIN yet, if the ps2 cant run halo, how can it run a halo 2 killer.

despite the fact that you're probably right, its worth reminding you that Halo has never actually been run through a PS2, on the basis that its an XBox exculsive (in the console market at least). I'm sure you know that though

Remember also, that just because no other PS2 game has looked as nice as Halo, doesn't mean that this one can't. Its all down to optimisation, rather than the base system specs when you're trying to squeeze every last drop of life out of a console: Its the Software and not the Hardware that is the deciding factor. (observe also how optimisation has totally ruined some games that have crossed over from the technically inferior PS2 to the XBox, which kind of proves the point.) - Though the abilities of the Hardware remain static, the abilities of the Software are forever imporving. Final Fantasy IX doesn't look 20 times better than Final Fantasy VII because it changed the hardware. It was just optimised.

If Kin's developers are commited, hardworking folks they can do this. It'll be an uphill struggle for sure, but I hope it suceeds. I need a PS2 game to extend my meagre library of... 3. I'd rather have Half-Life of course... but i'll have that sooner anyway

Though I do have reservations about using a Contoller for any First Person game. I've no idea which console controller is better for it, I'd just rather have a mouse and a keyboard ^_^

Azuma_Ninja · Jun 14th, 2003, 01:59 PM

I agree with dan. Just look at Splinter Cell, sure it did a nice job of trying to look like the original but it really never could. I'm not saying that x-box is the best but I really doubt this game is going to outshine halo 2. It really all comes down to the fans in the end.

kupoartist · Jun 14th, 2003, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by Azuma_Ninja
I agree with dan. Just look at Splinter Cell, sure it did a nice job of trying to look like the original but it really never could. I'm not saying that x-box is the best but I really doubt this game is going to outshine halo 2. It really all comes down to the fans in the end.

Yes, Splinter Cell was technically inferior, but then its the flipside of the coin: it was developed to be optimised for the Xbox. The PS2 release wasn't rushed as such, but they didn't have a couple of years to optimise the Unreal Warfare engine for optimal use on the PS2. Instead they chose to take the easy way out and simplyfy the game content - lower polygon counts and less detailed textures, rather than actually reprogramming the engine. The opposite will be true of Kin. Or at least it should be, otherwise it will disappoint.

Azuma_Ninja · Jun 14th, 2003, 05:46 PM

Yes lets hope they don't rush this. Knowbody wins when a game is rushed or pushed out early.

dan da man · Jun 15th, 2003, 06:03 AM

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Originally posted by Azuma_Ninja

Yes lets hope they don't rush this. Knowbody wins when a game is rushed or pushed out early.

Halo was rushed for the xbox release date, thats why the game does not have a xbox live feature, and all those "40 weapons" bungie promised.

Azuma_Ninja · Jun 15th, 2003, 12:23 PM

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originally posted by dan da man

Halo was rushed for the xbox release date, thats why the game does not have a xbox live feature, and all those "40 weapons" bungie promised.

I did not know that. Oh well It doesn't bother me the only weapon that I haven't seen in Halo that was originally going to be in there was a flame-thrower(how cool would that've been).

dan da man · Jun 15th, 2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Azuma_Ninja

I did not know that. Oh well It doesn't bother me the only weapon that I haven't seen in Halo that was originally going to be in there was a flame-thrower(how cool would that've been).

Yep, when everyone played it, and the flamethrower wasnt there, it just sucked not having it.

kupoartist · Jun 15th, 2003, 03:12 PM

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Originally posted by dan da man
Halo was rushed for the xbox release date, thats why the game does not have a xbox live feature, and all those "40 weapons" bungie promised.

Are some of these features going to be in the PC version? I heard that they got a few new weapons and the Multiplayer into it (looking foward to it ^_^)... also, the XBox live thing wasn't really their fault, right? Halo was released well before XBox live, so the XBox Live Technology probably wasn't even finalised. No Finished Tech = No Idea exactly what you have to program for.

dan da man · Jun 15th, 2003, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by the_artist

Are some of these features going to be in the PC version? I heard that they got a few new weapons and the Multiplayer into it (looking foward to it ^_^)... also, the XBox live thing wasn't really their fault, right? Halo was released well before XBox live, so the XBox Live Technology probably wasn't even finalised. No Finished Tech = No Idea exactly what you have to program for.

Yep the halo PP version will have them features.

And halo was going to have the XBL feature, moto GP had the XBL feature and it was released on the xbox release date, microsoft had it all planned with the broadand modem built in.

Azuma_Ninja · Jun 15th, 2003, 10:44 PM

[Quote]originally posted by the_artist

Are some of these features going to be in the PC version?[Quote]

I remember when Halo was originally a PC game. Man those were the days of Ultra Gamplers my fav videogame mag ever

That game looked a lot different back then.....maybe the PC version will be like that but I doubt it.

Is the PC version just a port of HALO for X-box?

ssjtrunks13 · Jun 16th, 2003, 04:31 AM

I can't read right now so I will taked it that this thread looks like a bunch of people saying Halo's gonna be better.

Well, I don't know about that. I've never played Halo and I never considered playing it. I don't know if I'd get this one but it does sound interesting. I just think it's good that a game like Halo will be out for us people who only have a PS2 and will have only a PS2 for a while. I certainly think that KIN would look better in the eyes of someone like me, but that's just my opinion.

kupoartist · Jun 16th, 2003, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by ssjtrunks13
I just think it's good that a game like Halo will be out for us people who only have a PS2 and will have only a PS2 for a while. I certainly think that KIN would look better in the eyes of someone like me, but that's just my opinion.

Don't get them wrong: Kin is no more like Halo than Half-Life, Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake, Tribes, Red Faction and every other FPS in the buisness. Its just a case of someone saying "This is going to be better than Halo". Reaching Enlightenment is probably better than Halo. That doesn't mean they're the same thing.

And having a firm set opinion on somthing you've never seen or played is not only pretty stupid, but its not worthy of even being called an opinion. You can't have an opinion unless you know what you're talking about.

MakgSnake · Jun 16th, 2003, 08:13 PM

Well, I think if Playstation2 can create graphics like "Gran Turismo 3" or even "4"...... which till now XBOX havn't, then why cant Playstation2 can create the same type of graphics (GT4) for the First Person Shooter. It would be a tough long process but it does seem possible.

And although we all are talking about Graphics, Graphcis, Graphics..........lets just talk about gameplay. I mean ONLINE Co-Op.....that is something awesome.....plus god knows what else they would include.

Only time can tell the full filler.

Jun 12th, 2003, 06:07 PM	#21
Vic Viper Nero Must Die ! Joined: Jul 2002 Location: los angeles, CA Posts: 1,704	i found a pic scan quality is bad, though. https://www.videogamerx.net/bbs/data/vx01/killzone1.jpg __________________

Jun 12th, 2003, 10:48 PM	#22
MakgSnake Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Mississuaga, Canada. Posts: 3,554	From the pic above, it seems like the character is hitting the gaurd with his gun, just like the way done in Halo. Hmmmm....... I sat far away from the screen to see what was going on, and it looks pretty cool. If the whole game is just beautiful and lets you do stuff that no other game have. This would be a nice game. And then I would buy it. __________________

Jun 14th, 2003, 07:21 AM	#23
dan da man Talk to the hand Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,520	Nah, I thought about it, the ps2 wont be able to handle that type of game, it might live up to its hype, it may be good, but it wont be a halo 2 killer. __________________ Gaming Is For Life, Not Just For Christmas!

Jun 14th, 2003, 01:59 PM	#29
Azuma_Ninja Techno Artist Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Global Age: 40 Posts: 732	I agree with dan. Just look at Splinter Cell, sure it did a nice job of trying to look like the original but it really never could. I'm not saying that x-box is the best but I really doubt this game is going to outshine halo 2. It really all comes down to the fans in the end. __________________

Jun 14th, 2003, 05:46 PM	#31
Azuma_Ninja Techno Artist Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Global Age: 40 Posts: 732	Yes lets hope they don't rush this. Knowbody wins when a game is rushed or pushed out early. __________________

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Jun 15th, 2003, 10:44 PM	#37
Azuma_Ninja Techno Artist Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Global Age: 40 Posts: 732	[Quote]originally posted by the_artist Are some of these features going to be in the PC version?[Quote] I remember when Halo was originally a PC game. Man those were the days of Ultra Gamplers my fav videogame mag ever That game looked a lot different back then.....maybe the PC version will be like that but I doubt it. Is the PC version just a port of HALO for X-box? __________________

Jun 16th, 2003, 04:31 AM	#38
ssjtrunks13 Results May Vary Joined: Sep 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 2,712	I can't read right now so I will taked it that this thread looks like a bunch of people saying Halo's gonna be better. Well, I don't know about that. I've never played Halo and I never considered playing it. I don't know if I'd get this one but it does sound interesting. I just think it's good that a game like Halo will be out for us people who only have a PS2 and will have only a PS2 for a while. I certainly think that KIN would look better in the eyes of someone like me, but that's just my opinion.

Jun 16th, 2003, 08:13 PM	#40
MakgSnake Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Mississuaga, Canada. Posts: 3,554	Well, I think if Playstation2 can create graphics like "Gran Turismo 3" or even "4"...... which till now XBOX havn't, then why cant Playstation2 can create the same type of graphics (GT4) for the First Person Shooter. It would be a tough long process but it does seem possible. And although we all are talking about Graphics, Graphcis, Graphics..........lets just talk about gameplay. I mean ONLINE Co-Op.....that is something awesome.....plus god knows what else they would include. Only time can tell the full filler. __________________

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