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Old Sep 25th, 2004, 06:49 PM   #1
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Angry Help!

Hey guys.

Eeks! I should've thought about this sooner.

Anyway, as an English assignment, I have to do a student presentation on "fallacies."

The fallacy I'm supposed to present is that of "two wrongs don't make a right." In a gist, in an argument, this way of thinking is fallacious because the on being accused of a wrong action is trying to justify their actions based on another wrong action.

Kinda like saying: "Well, I did -X because Y did -Z to me."

An example would be: "Capital punishment is fine, since those the state kills don't have any qualms about killing others."

Here, person A is justifying capital punishment on the grounds that killing someone who has killed is fine because they killed in the first place.

My "argument" *cough* is that the thinking of wrong + wrong = right is, in fact, not correct, but rather is fallacious.

Now, I think I can explain this, but the problem is that I need to have concrete examples, and I really can't think of any.

Soooo, I was wondering if any of you guys can think of anything. It doesn't have to be anything serious - it can be something coming from a Disney movie.

I've been looking for a while, but I can't find something that points to this exactly.

If any of you guys have heard of things like this, be it in movies, shows, songs, politics, ect., I would greatly appreciate it if you'd let me know!

Thanks a bunch in advance.
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Old Sep 25th, 2004, 07:15 PM   #2
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Here's one that I found that's really good IMO:

Political Fallacy: Bush This is the cached version...if you can't see it, here's the quote:

Quote:
1. "Abraham Lincoln didn't want to go to war,'' Mrs. Bush said, "but he knew that saving the union required it. Franklin Roosevelt didn't want to go to war, but he knew that defeating tyranny demanded it. And my husband didn't want to go to war, but he knew the safety and security of America and the world depended on it."
Here's another site that is supposed to contain a lot of Fallacy quotes:

Fallacy Files I don't know if this is what you're looking for though.

I know there are some fallacies in films and even games and such, but I can't think of any right now. I'll try to come up with some later.
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Old Oct 1st, 2004, 11:32 AM   #3
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Well, I was going to mention bush also, but since Meryl gave you an entire website of fallacies I think you should be all set

Btw, how are the wonderful Mena and Meryl doing? Yes, that's right I'm back online finally That took long enough!

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