Home  Appotography.com 
advertisement Tiny Crosswords - Made by MagnetiCatGames.com
Playstation 2 Fantasy - Everything about Playstation 2 Developed on Alienware! Search games!
  Register   Mark Forums Read   Calendar   Members   FAQ   Home  

Latest NewsReviewsPreviewsFeaturesScreenshotsContact Our Staff

Welcome to the PsFantasy.com Forums.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.



Go Back  PsFantasy.com Forums » Gaming Forums » Grand Theft Auto Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 06:38 PM   #1
Spank-A-Thon
Carpe Diem Baby!
 
Spank-A-Thon's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Liverpool, UK
Age: 49
Posts: 664
Spank-A-Thon is on a distinguished road
Serious flaws with GTA: VC

Now I realise this is probably going to stir things up somewhat (so I'll don my flame-proof jacket now), but I have to say I am only merely satisfied with Vice City. For me there are some serious flaws.

I really liked GTA3, the atmosphere was great, music was fantastic and the concept was really cool - but VC just hasn't had the same impact for me.

My biggest criticism has to be with the graphics. While I realise there is a lot going on, the draw-distance is pathetic. There has been no visible improvement over GTA3.

Similarly, I find the jerkiness and blur effects when turning (be that driving or in first person mode) to be very off-putting. If it can scroll smoothly when moving forwards, why not when turning?

Finally, I find the gameplay quite repetitive. Drive here, shoot that, drive there, shoot that, ad infinitum. However, I must add that some of the missions are quite exciting such as the shootout from the helicopter - it's just a shame that the majority of missions become very 'samey'.

However, I think what they have done with the soundtrack is amazing! Not only is the sheer amount of licensed tracks impressive, but the chat and ad jingles surpass that of GTA3.

I know a lot of you guys out there really rate this game, but for me it's not the massive improvement I was looking for. To me it seems more like GTA2, i.e. more of the same, rather than an evolution of the series.

Don't get me wrong - it is a good game. I just don't think it's as groundbreaking or good as GTA3...

- S
__________________
Spank-A-Thon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 06:39 PM   #2
jdkgts
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 32
jdkgts is on a distinguished road
It seems like most people think it is better. I'll have to wait till I have the game.
jdkgts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 07:26 PM   #3
Sleazy P Martini
Senior Member
 
Sleazy P Martini's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,582
Sleazy P Martini is on a distinguished road
I don't like the blur effect. I always turn it off. For me the bikes, helicopters, and MUCH improved radio stations were enough of an improvement for me. I also like the fact that you can go almost anywhere in the city (near the end) without being ambushed by gangs.
__________________
Sleazy P Martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 07:40 PM   #4
The_Senator
Thuganomics Teacher
 
The_Senator's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Age: 39
Posts: 81
The_Senator is on a distinguished road
Although GTA 3 was ground-breaking and all that it was really a superb game. In the end it became so good the Developers couldn't top it in your opinion, BUT they obviously have in some places.

GTA VC is an improvement but you have to remember before you make something so tremendous you have to leave yourself some space to top it.

For example everyone remembers Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' and could anyone top it, no. Not even the man himself.

But I havel to agree with Sleazy, VC is a major improvement over all.
The_Senator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 07:55 PM   #5
jdkgts
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 32
jdkgts is on a distinguished road
I just didn't like GTA3. It got old too fast for me. Hopefully with VC it won't be this way. I amy rent it first to be sure.
jdkgts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 11th, 2002, 10:06 PM   #6
AudioBoxer
Banned Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Some white padded room?
Posts: 899
AudioBoxer is on a distinguished road
I havnt got my copy yet of VC but what do you mean by blur effect?
AudioBoxer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 12th, 2002, 12:41 AM   #7
twiztidfreak69er
The Freak of da Week
 
twiztidfreak69er's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Location: Hell
Age: 40
Posts: 98
twiztidfreak69er is on a distinguished road
basically like he said blurry when you turn is kinda fuzzy or the lights and everything gets blurry my copy sometimes freezes up but rarelly
twiztidfreak69er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 12th, 2002, 06:39 AM   #8
Redpyramidhead
pazparacolombia
 
Redpyramidhead's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Restless dreams...
Age: 43
Posts: 2,002
Redpyramidhead is on a distinguished road
Like Sleazy said, you can turn the blur effects off in the option menu under Display. It's called "Trails." Also when you turn it off the shapes in the game become less blurry and more defined and easier to look at and the colors become brighter and slightly more "modern." I am wondering if this feature was added to give the game an 80's film effect? I wasn't too happy with it, though, so luckily you can turn it off.



_RED_ stuff
__________________




"..loathsome laughing, mixed with such a cry as no man has heard save for in the phlegathon of unrelatable nightmares; a cry wherein reverberated the horror and anguish of a haunted lifetime packed into one atrocious moment..."
Redpyramidhead is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 12th, 2002, 09:48 PM   #9
Vicious_2003
Stationary Wonderer
 
Vicious_2003's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: In front of my computer
Age: 39
Posts: 1,140
Vicious_2003 is on a distinguished road
For me VC is much MUCH better than GTA 3. I mean the addition of motor cycles alone is enough to make me buy the game, but then you add Purchasable properties , FLYABLE helicoptors, an actual use for all the money you earn, Better missions, More Cars, a city thats twice as large, more weapons, the ability to shoot out tires. etc . To ME theres no question, perhaps your being a little picky, I mean the graphics, statistically are improved slightly over GTA 3 (Barely Noticable yes, but lets not forget the city is twice as big in VC) . And to complain about the blur effect doesent seem right when you can turn it off, I dont think its a default setting anywyas is it ?. If so I never tuned it off and havent even noticed it.
__________________

The kinder, gentler, Vicious

Beretta55- "fo sheezy heezy neezy weezy flipity floppity floop"

Lost Myth- "I already know you are something special and I think the Pistons did too,
because then why would they have won the trophy on your birthday dude?

Anonymous- "Whos more to blame, me for being quote un quote gullible ?, or him for lying !?"
Vicious_2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 12th, 2002, 10:46 PM   #10
merylsilverburg
Enemy or Ally?
 
merylsilverburg's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,023
merylsilverburg is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by Redpyramidhead
Like Sleazy said, you can turn the blur effects off in the option menu under Display. It's called "Trails." Also when you turn it off the shapes in the game become less blurry and more defined and easier to look at and the colors become brighter and slightly more "modern." I am wondering if this feature was added to give the game an 80's film effect? I wasn't too happy with it, though, so luckily you can turn it off.



_RED_ stuff
Omg, thank you for the information. From the beginning ever since I started playing, I hated the blurriness and got kinda sick because nothing was clear. Then I asked my sister what the hell is up with this and she said it was probably to give the game an '80s effect (like you said) since around that time the 80's had that hazy look to it. I didn't know you could turn it off so I was stuck playing with the blurriness till my eyes began to water.

Quote:
Originally posted by Spank-A-Thon
I really liked GTA3, the atmosphere was great, music was fantastic and the concept was really cool - but VC just hasn't had the same impact for me.
Yes, I agree too...I still love the atmosphere of GTA3, with all the grime and dirt and darkness....to me, that's just terrific. I do like GTA: VC because it's something fresh and new and it's still quite enjoyable, but I would still prefer GTA3.
__________________
"You're a louse Roger Smith" ~ R. Dorothy Wayneright

"Have a little priest" ~ Mrs. Lovett

"Grim Reaper, you could not get the women? What was the problem? Didn't you reap them with your grim reaping equipment?"

"I tried that but the women, they all know hopscotch" ~ Eddie Izzard


You Can Help

merylsilverburg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 12:47 AM   #11
Vicious_2003
Stationary Wonderer
 
Vicious_2003's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: In front of my computer
Age: 39
Posts: 1,140
Vicious_2003 is on a distinguished road
This makes no sence to me, can you honestly say that GTA 3 is better than Vice City !?. I mean c mon its the same game except DRASTICALLY improved in just about every possible way. Maybe its just that you cant relate with the time period perhaps . I know that I would prefer the game be set in modern time with modern music and what not but still this game is everything that GTA 3 wasnt , much MUCH better and I dont really see how anyone can hold a strait face and say otherwise . Its like getting a 5 dollar bill, then trading it in for a twenty and saying you liked the 5 better. To ME (My opinion) GTA 3 wasnt as good as it was hyped up to be and with the arrival of VC Its more clear now than ever. I didnt even finish GTA 3 because I got sick of the extremely repetitive missions , they compensated for lack of quality in the missions my making them more difficult. Also one of the things I like alot more in VC is that it seemed to me that the city was MUCH MUCH easier to navigate, didnt have to drive for a million miles to cross over form island to island and I didnt have to try and friggin memorize the pay-n-spray locations . Anyways thats what I think
__________________

The kinder, gentler, Vicious

Beretta55- "fo sheezy heezy neezy weezy flipity floppity floop"

Lost Myth- "I already know you are something special and I think the Pistons did too,
because then why would they have won the trophy on your birthday dude?

Anonymous- "Whos more to blame, me for being quote un quote gullible ?, or him for lying !?"
Vicious_2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 05:57 AM   #12
Spank-A-Thon
Carpe Diem Baby!
 
Spank-A-Thon's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Liverpool, UK
Age: 49
Posts: 664
Spank-A-Thon is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by Weapon_XZ84
This makes no sence to me, can you honestly say that GTA 3 is better than Vice City !?. I mean c mon its the same game except DRASTICALLY improved in just about every possible way. Maybe its just that you cant relate with the time period perhaps .
Relating to the time period is not my problem considering I grew up in the 80's and listened to most of the music in the game when it first came out! Sometimes a game can be 'improved' but lose something too. I personally found Soul Calibur to be not as good as Soul Blade/Edge from a playability perspective. I found Gran Turismo 2 to be not as as good as GT1. In this case, VC seems to lack the atmosphere that sucked me into GTA3 - ergo, in my eyes, GTA3 is better irrespective of the 'improvements' made. Put simply, I enjoyed GTA3 more.
Quote:
I know that I would prefer the game be set in modern time with modern music and what not but still this game is everything that GTA 3 wasnt , much MUCH better and I dont really see how anyone can hold a strait face and say otherwise . Its like getting a 5 dollar bill, then trading it in for a twenty and saying you liked the 5 better. To ME (My opinion) GTA 3 wasnt as good as it was hyped up to be and with the arrival of VC Its more clear now than ever.
For some reason, GTA: VC just doesn't have the same gritty and dark atmosphere that GTA3 did. The bright and cheerful Vice City is certainly a change, but I guess I've always prefered the darker, moodier games - VC isn't dark enough for me I guess.
Quote:
I didnt even finish GTA 3 because I got sick of the extremely repetitive missions , they compensated for lack of quality in the missions my making them more difficult. Also one of the things I like alot more in VC is that it seemed to me that the city was MUCH MUCH easier to navigate, didnt have to drive for a million miles to cross over form island to island and I didnt have to try and friggin memorize the pay-n-spray locations . Anyways thats what I think
That's one thing I noticed too, and that's VC does seem a lot easier to navigate, less side streets and the like - but that's another crticisim of mine. City's do have side streets and the like. VC may be twice and big as Liberty City, but it doesn't feel like there is as much to it...

However, the addition of an in-game map is something that GTA3 was begging for - and I am chuffed to see it in VC.

By the way, thanks to those who pointed out you could turn of the trails - that should improve my experience considerably!

I'm glad to see that no-one has resorted to stupid comments like 'j00 suck - GTA: VC rulezzzzzzzz'.... At the end of the day, I'm only expressing my opinion - don't mean I'm right or wrong. Different strokes for different folks!

- S
__________________
Spank-A-Thon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 05:59 AM   #13
dan da man
Talk to the hand
 
dan da man's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3,520
dan da man is on a distinguished road
VC is better than gta3 VC just has a better impact with all the new things u can do
dan da man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 09:17 AM   #14
Andi
Banned Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: Third Place
Age: 45
Posts: 748
Andi is on a distinguished road
Vice City

Quote:
Originally posted by Spank-A-Thon
I know a lot of you guys out there really rate this game, but for me it's not the massive improvement I was looking for. To me it seems more like GTA2, i.e. more of the same, rather than an evolution of the series.

Don't get me wrong - it is a good game. I just don't think it's as groundbreaking or good as GTA3...

- S
Vice city ! is set in the 80's, so they cant put loads of new stuff in the game !

And it wont have the same impact ! Due to the reason been , you allready seen GTA3 in a 3D world ! Compared to looking down ! <<< They should have left the looking down view on for landing Helicopters !

All i can say is ! If They were making GTA 4 , before they started Vice City , then GTA 4 is guna be Awesome Think of all the improvements , (with todays Technology & Guns)
Andi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 09:57 AM   #15
Sleazy P Martini
Senior Member
 
Sleazy P Martini's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,582
Sleazy P Martini is on a distinguished road
Ah but I'm betting that the nice gloomy settings will return for GTA4. As for VC, I love the new cheery look. It's a breath of fresh air that keeps the series from getting too repetative. (but then again, its always been a little repetative mission wise) I've been a hardcore fan of the series from day one. (I loved the Russian radio from GTA2)
__________________
Sleazy P Martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 11:05 AM   #16
MakgSnake
Senior Member
 
MakgSnake's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Mississuaga, Canada.
Posts: 3,554
MakgSnake is on a distinguished road
Re: Vice City

Quote:
Originally posted by Andi
All i can say is ! If They were making GTA 4 , before they started Vice City , then GTA 4 is guna be Awesome
I think thats why Rockstar didn't really put in their brains completely in ViceCity. I mean it is a sequal, but not a true sequal, that would be GTA4.

So, if they would have used all the "new" elements they have in VC, it would be hard for them to make even better ones for GTA4. I heard great things about Vice City. You can own things and actually be the boss around sounds great.

Vice City is basically an add on (expansion pack) kinda thing. Adding new elements which could be "possible" for the current game surrounding are put in.

If we want something groundbreaking, I guess we all have to wait for GTA4. I am sure that game will be groundbreaking. Hopefully.
__________________
MakgSnake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 12:29 PM   #17
RobHardo
Senior Member
 
RobHardo's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Location: Nirvana
Age: 36
Posts: 1,010
RobHardo is on a distinguished roadRobHardo is on a distinguished roadRobHardo is on a distinguished road
hit pause and on the options menu turn off the trails, problem solved next question.
__________________
[S O L I D:] [S N A K E]


IT'S MYSPACE!
RobHardo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 03:41 PM   #18
Vicious_2003
Stationary Wonderer
 
Vicious_2003's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: In front of my computer
Age: 39
Posts: 1,140
Vicious_2003 is on a distinguished road
ONot a true sequel ?. How can you say its not a true sequel when it dwarfs GTA 3. Theres no question that VC has GTA 3 beat, argue as long as you want but youll still be wrong. Why all the negative comments towards VC anyways, it is an absolute masterpice of a game and Rock Star officials spoke out in a press conference saying "We didnt just make VC a rehash sequel" They went on to say how it dwarfs GTA 3 in just about every way. Lets face it, which is better or weather or not VC is a GREAT game isnt really up for debate, its a fact. (Not saying you cant list your opinions were all entitled to do that ) But can you really say that with all its improvements the stinking absence of the so called "Gloominess" really makes that much of a difference ?. Also Im willing to bet GTA 4 will be better than VC, but not much better. Theres not much more, gameplay wise they can add. Rockstar said they pulled no stops, left little room for improvement with Vice City. I think there just taking all that extra time to get more voice acting promos in and what not. I just dont get why theres always a good number of people in a group that like to go against the main stream opinion and focus soley on the games minor flaws, like "Gloominess" gimme a break !
__________________

The kinder, gentler, Vicious

Beretta55- "fo sheezy heezy neezy weezy flipity floppity floop"

Lost Myth- "I already know you are something special and I think the Pistons did too,
because then why would they have won the trophy on your birthday dude?

Anonymous- "Whos more to blame, me for being quote un quote gullible ?, or him for lying !?"
Vicious_2003 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 13th, 2002, 04:04 PM   #19
Spank-A-Thon
Carpe Diem Baby!
 
Spank-A-Thon's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Location: Liverpool, UK
Age: 49
Posts: 664
Spank-A-Thon is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally posted by Weapon_XZ84
ONot a true sequel ?. How can you say its not a true sequel when it dwarfs GTA 3. Theres no question that VC has GTA 3 beat, argue as long as you want but youll still be wrong.
I think you're missing the point of a discussion forum - no one is 'right' or 'wrong' when it comes to opinion. Every opinion is valid.
Quote:
Why all the negative comments towards VC anyways, it is an absolute masterpice of a game and Rock Star officials spoke out in a press conference saying "We didnt just make VC a rehash sequel" They went on to say how it dwarfs GTA 3 in just about every way.
So you'd rather have a forum where everyone waxes lyrical about how great GTA: VC is? That would get pretty boring quick. Take Final Fantasy VII, a masterpiece if there ever was one, yet there are lots of people who don't like it or see faults in the game. A forum full of positive threads would get boring very quickly.

As for Rockstar saying they didn't simply rehash GTA3 - what does that prove? They will say anything to get you to buy the game cos at the end of the day, they want your money.
Quote:
Lets face it, which is better or weather or not VC is a GREAT game isnt really up for debate, its a fact. (Not saying you cant list your opinions were all entitled to do that )
You can't say it being a great games is fact because it isn't. You may think it's a great game, I merely think it's good. I think Final Fantasy VII is a great game, other people don't. In either case, it isn't fact but instead is an opinion.
Quote:
But can you really say that with all its improvements the stinking absence of the so called "Gloominess" really makes that much of a difference ?.
To me it does, it affects the atmosphere of the game. The dark, seedy feel to GTA3 drew me into the game a lot more than the bright, cleaner looking GTA: VC. I really got into GTA3 - I'm nowhere near as into VC.
Quote:
I just dont get why theres always a good number of people in a group that like to go against the main stream opinion and focus soley on the games minor flaws, like "Gloominess" gimme a break !
When you have a group of people there will always be others who have a differing opinion. That's human nature, and given this is a forum it's only natural to express that opinion in the hopes that discussion will be lively and balanced. A world where everyone thought the same would be extremely boring and lead to no innovation whatsoever. Any community needs people with differing opinions to thrive.

As for minor flaws, I could also mention the sluggish controls and the frustrating targeting system which although much improved, are still not as quick as say Devil May Cry. Perhaps I could mention the frame-rate barely reaching 30fps the majority of the time. I could mention the bland interior locations, or the fact the characters appear to have no fingers...

Yes there are some improvements - but adding such things as the ability to ride motorbikes hardly constitutes a massive improvement.

I have to agree with MakgSnake.
Quote:
Vice City is basically an add on (expansion pack) kinda thing. Adding new elements which could be "possible" for the current game surrounding are put in.
I'm sorry if this upsets people but the improvements present do not represent a true sequel, but more of an expansion disc. If GTA3 is FIFA2002, then GTA:VC is FIFA2003... Naturally though, this is just my opinion...

- S
__________________
Spank-A-Thon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2002, 02:23 PM   #20
XboxKiller
Registered User
 
XboxKiller's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 55
XboxKiller is on a distinguished road
Damn I fell sorry for you spank-a-thon. here you are saying that one of the best ps2 game is like FIFA 2003
come on its much better than that. maybe you just havent played the game that much because the first two minutes that I played it I was in love
try doing something fun on it like flying the helicopter and crash into something and if that dont work then I am sorry put I got things to do like.........um.........oh yeah
PLAY THE BEST GAME ON THE PS2
VICE CITY

by the way I never knew that you could take the blurriness off the game I tried it yesterday and damn that was a sharp clean no mess gta game I have ever seen
xbox and gc owners eat your heart out
XboxKiller is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will the next GTA actually be GTA 4 or just GTA: san andreas? Vulcan Raven Grand Theft Auto Forum 1 Oct 8th, 2003 09:13 AM
2 new GTA games announced Infernal Mass Grand Theft Auto Forum 1 Mar 1st, 2003 08:54 AM
The next GTA to be released this year Vic Viper Grand Theft Auto Forum 1 Feb 28th, 2003 03:29 PM
Next GTA... The_Senator Grand Theft Auto Forum 19 Dec 3rd, 2002 02:15 PM
Important information about GTA Miami.... BlackThornn Grand Theft Auto Forum 26 Mar 28th, 2002 02:53 PM

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Playstation 2 Fantasy - Everything About Playstation 2 Ps2Fantasy.com | News | Games | Forums | Newsletter | Chat | Privacy Policy | Advertise With Us | Contact Us
Copyright ©2001-2014 MagnetiCat.com. All rights reserved. All trademarks and trade names are properties of their respective owners.

X vBulletin 3.8.10 Debug Information
  • Page Generation 0.19219 seconds
  • Memory Usage 2,707KB
  • Queries Executed 10 (?)
More Information
Template Usage:
  • (1)SHOWTHREAD
  • (1)ad_footer_end
  • (1)ad_footer_start
  • (1)ad_header_end
  • (1)ad_header_logo
  • (1)ad_navbar_below
  • (1)ad_showthread_beforeqr
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_sig
  • (1)ad_showthread_firstpost_start
  • (13)bbcode_quote
  • (1)footer
  • (1)forumjump
  • (1)forumrules
  • (1)gobutton
  • (1)header
  • (1)headinclude
  • (1)navbar
  • (3)navbar_link
  • (21)option
  • (1)pagenav
  • (1)pagenav_curpage
  • (2)pagenav_pagelink
  • (20)postbit_legacy
  • (20)postbit_onlinestatus
  • (22)postbit_reputation
  • (20)postbit_wrapper
  • (4)showthread_bookmarksite
  • (5)showthread_similarthreadbit
  • (1)showthread_similarthreads
  • (1)spacer_close
  • (1)spacer_open
  • (1)tagbit_wrapper 

Phrase Groups Available:
  • global
  • inlinemod
  • postbit
  • posting
  • reputationlevel
  • showthread
Included Files:
  • ./showthread.php
  • ./global.php
  • ./includes/init.php
  • ./includes/class_core.php
  • ./includes/config.php
  • ./includes/functions.php
  • ./includes/class_datastore.php
  • ./includes/datastore/datastore_cache.php
  • ./includes/class_hook.php
  • ./includes/functions_cat_cfgeoblock.php
  • ./includes/functions_cat_edittime.php
  • ./includes/adminfunctions.php
  • ./includes/functions_bigthree.php
  • ./includes/class_postbit.php
  • ./includes/class_bbcode.php
  • ./includes/functions_reputation.php 

Hooks Called:
  • init_startup
  • cache_permissions
  • fetch_threadinfo_query
  • fetch_threadinfo
  • fetch_foruminfo
  • style_fetch
  • cache_templates
  • global_start
  • parse_templates
  • global_setup_complete
  • showthread_start
  • showthread_getinfo
  • forumjump
  • showthread_post_start
  • showthread_query_postids
  • showthread_query
  • bbcode_fetch_tags
  • bbcode_create
  • showthread_postbit_create
  • postbit_factory
  • postbit_display_start
  • fetch_musername
  • reputation_image
  • bbcode_parse_start
  • postbit_imicons
  • bbcode_parse_complete_precache
  • bbcode_parse_complete
  • postbit_display_complete
  • pagenav_page
  • pagenav_complete
  • tag_fetchbit_complete
  • showthread_similarthread_query
  • showthread_similarthreadbit
  • forumrules
  • showthread_bookmarkbit
  • navbits
  • navbits_complete
  • showthread_complete