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Old Jun 15th, 2002, 09:26 AM   #21
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15 is good. But I have to say that my opinion is bogus considering that I'm 16. I would really recommend a higher age but that would make me a hypocrite.

I enjoy the game, but some of my friends go crazy when they see that kind of stuff. (Kicking a dead cop to see how much blood would come out) That's taking it a little far.

Selling the game based on maturity wouldn't work. Think of all the under age kids, like myself, that are playing it with the strict 18 and up rating? If they lessened the requirements everyone would own one.
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Old Jun 15th, 2002, 09:22 PM   #22
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well they care in indianapolis they put all the bad games behind a curtain so kids under 18 can't go in there (games with M ratings) but kno wgame store has really cared if i buy an M rated title, cause well i am at gamestop so much the people there know me and know that i am capable of basic right wrong, good bad, real fake comprehension, same as blockbuster, i live like 1 minute away from one and i am there so much that me an dthe employees are on a first name basis, and that they'd give me a job but i am under age (14) and yo umust be 18 to work there
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Old Jun 16th, 2002, 05:53 AM   #23
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Exclamation Vice City

Vice City Holds a 18 certificate
This is much more like it !
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Old Jun 17th, 2002, 02:52 AM   #24
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It's a game, lighten up.

Besides, once that cute blond little 8 year old girl becomes 18, chances are she'll be a slut. Everyone'll be currupted sooner or later. Watching a car rock back and forth after picking up a prostitute wont make matters worse.
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Old Jun 17th, 2002, 09:18 PM   #25
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I cannot really reccommend a specific age, because I think that as long as an individal can fully understand the difference between fantasy and reality, then there's no reason why that individual can't play GTA3
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Old Jun 18th, 2002, 01:10 AM   #26
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sleazy P Martini
Yeah well thats my point. It's rated "M" meaning if you're under 17 you shouldn't be playing it. Obviously the ratings mean nothing as everyone can get it. So it's not ok for a 15 yr old to get a hooker, but its ok to pretend? :rolleyes:
An 18 year old can be drafted in the army to die but he cannot buy a beer.

Society is full of hypocrisies.

As for my opinion, I believe that people should probably be at least teenagers (14+) to play it.. It would probably be much younger if society at large were not so controlled by the ridiculously conservative minority.

*repeats "I will not get into a debate about the violence in the media argument.." a few times.. sighs frustratedly*

Kids want it, kids play it. If they are mature enough (thier parents think they are mature enough) then they should be able to play it. It really irks me when I hear about parents buying the game for thier kids then whining because they didn't know it had all the violence and sex in it. It is a rated M game named after a felony offense.. it is not society's or the game's fault because they are twits. Then again when I see a headline like "Child kills sibling reenacting video game violence" I don't see that.. I see "Moron parents raise psycho retarded kid".

Oy.. I'm breaking my mantra. I'll stop now.
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Old Dec 9th, 2002, 07:27 PM   #27
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i am 11 i'm just surprised that they put that kind of stuff in games
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Old Dec 10th, 2002, 08:55 AM   #28
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Angry

well i am pretty sure if all the M rated games would not be sold to underaged kids and had a WARNING on them for the parents

you see... the problem is that there is a warning
the label that says M for MATURE
so basicaly in front of the cover you see the M label
but some parents are just too dumb and forget to SWITCH the box and see WHY is it M on the back
cuz the label on the back says MATURE and explanation
well here is an example
VC on the back of the box says

[MATURE]
BLOOD AND GORE, VIOLENCE, STRONG LANGUAGE, STRONG SEXUAL CONTENT

so it's not the game that is bad
it's the PARENTS that buy that game for their kids

the way i see it is that if you ARE mature enough... and the only way for you to prove that you are mature enough is GET A JOB
GET PAID
BUY THE GAME
with your own money
cuz if you are mature enough to work then you are mature enough to understand that life is not a game
and you will never take the game so serious

that is all i wanted to so
pretty much the age doesn't matter
JOB = MATURE = OWNING THE GAME
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Old Dec 10th, 2002, 09:59 AM   #29
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you guys are gonna yell at me i have vice city and my brother plays it and hes only 7!!!! well he never goes and picks up hookers he usally plays missions and drives around nothing really violent.
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Old Dec 10th, 2002, 03:56 PM   #30
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loads of kids play it, no one ever listens to the age rating any more! its wrong but that is how it is!
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Old Dec 11th, 2002, 12:54 AM   #31
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well i figure that it should be age related
like they dont sell you the game till you are some certain age
like smokes
and liquer
it's just something that they CAN do
that is the only way to atleast stop the kids
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Old Dec 11th, 2002, 07:11 AM   #32
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Im 12...and I was only 11 when I first played GTA3.
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Old Dec 12th, 2002, 05:14 AM   #33
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Well I was 13 when I walked into the shops to buy GTA3 when it first came out, and they sold it to me, no quams.
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 11:22 AM   #34
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Question Definitly over 18

Its definitly a game for over 18 although maybe over 16's can handle it!
Vice city is alot ruder that gta3 with the hookers saying stuff and that! I look after a 7 yr old and there is no way i would ever let her watch me play it let alone play it herself!

Definitly not for the young!
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 12:49 PM   #35
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you're DAMN RIGHT
it's just that those games are the new generation of education for the kids
and it's not a good one
like before.... 50 years ago... kids were educated with flowers, books, stories... etc...
well then it was ok... kids grew up and didn't become murderers, thieves, bandits, pimps and so on...
todays education ways will only make the kids become all those bad things in life
they will never achieve (spelling) anything...
only be a gang member... either kill someone or get killed by himself....

i hate the new education ways....
i think kids should NOT be educated on violence and destruction

it wasn't like this years ago
why make it like this now?
so every parent that reads this.... I QUOTE "IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO BE NORMAL, DONT LET THEM PLAY GAMES LIKE GTA AND WATCH MOVIES LIKE GI60S"

that is all i wanted to say
thank you
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 02:38 PM   #36
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my little cus plays it, hes 6 :O But I wouldnt say it gives him homocidal urges, although its messing him up, I think that as long as they know its not real (if you think a game is real, seek help) It's ok and Ratings can kinda be avoided, although i do think my cuz is too young for it. I started playing GTA1 when i was about 11... And i turned out ok *cough*
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 05:38 PM   #37
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you sure you turned out ok
j/k
well it's something that is up to the parents
not the kids
if the kids think like the game then you should seek help honestly
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Old Dec 16th, 2002, 10:58 PM   #38
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parents, for God's sake please figure this out. i watched my best freind grow up in a sheltered home. his mother pretended that no violence, sex, drug activity, or crime existed. when he turned about thirteen he became more socially oriented. through interactions with freinds he was more exposed to things like those which appear in gta. now im sad to say that while he is a great guy his moral values are a little skewed sometimes. he does not truly see the wrong in stealing and believes that the crap rappers say about sex is the way women should really be treated. im not saying hes warped or anything but the strict censorship with which he was treated caused him to disbelieve and mislead his mom, his teachers, and all authority figures. you must learn that your children, while young for a while have to grow up. they have to be treated with trust and, most importanlty RESPECT. you have to pay them the honor of realizing they are people just like you. and trying to make them different or "better" than everyone else will in the long run only hurt and disillusion them.
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Old Dec 17th, 2002, 11:27 AM   #39
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neo, I undrestand what you are saying. My parents sheltered me from stuff like you have stated. Fortunately it wasn't to the same extreme, I think maybe that's why I don't talk much. I was also ridiculed through 9th grade by my peers because I didn't know what they knew. For example, I was asked what a hoe was and I thought it only meant a garden tool and I was ridiculed for not knowing about the other meaning.
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Old Dec 17th, 2002, 11:40 AM   #40
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well sheltering kids from all that is not that good either
they have to know what's going on in this cruel world of murder ane corruption
like..... it's just supposed to be at a certain age
not just tell them and let them find that out at a young age...
like i started swearing when i was 10
ever since i am a bad boy
kick peoples asses and beat the crap out of some of the people
still... i know the line
i know what is good and what is bad
i still do most of the bad parts though

just because i know it's bad and i am bad
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