Things You Hate - Page 2

ssjtrunks13 · Feb 21st, 2003, 12:28 PM

The only time I will hate love stuff in anime is if that's what the show is primarily about, I hate it when all there is is the love stuff and not much action going on. I would like to watch the Japanese-subtitled stuff if only I could get away from reading the words and watching what's going on and then watch it a cond time reading the dialogue.

merylsilverburg · Feb 21st, 2003, 06:03 PM

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Originally posted by Saint Kittya

The voices are good? Good?! How could you say that! As hard as it is to believe with him being a dective and everything, Leon is only 24 years old! To be honest if I watched the thing blind folded I would have pictured Leon to in his late thirties with a heavy gut! His voice is so wrong for him!

Well, pardon me, it was only my opinion. And out of many of the horrible dubs that I've heard (Ayashi no Ceres, Cardcaptors (ugh), Escaflowne, Kaitou Saint Tail, Evangelion, Fruits Basket, I, My, Me Strawberry Egg!, Nadesico just to name a few), Petshop is actually not so bad. And while I have heard people say that the US voices for Evangelion is like...the best, I'm not about to argue with them like there's no tommorow. That's because I know that people have their own opinions on certain things and if they like the dub, then that's fine.
And because of the horrible dubbing going on, I've been watching subs for about 4 years now, with the exception of a few animes, I would watch as dubbed since they're pretty good...but I won't mention them here....I might get ridiculed for thinking so.

ssjtrunks13 · Feb 21st, 2003, 09:57 PM

I'd be cool with anything you said, meryl.

Preventer Wind · Feb 22nd, 2003, 01:08 AM

I, personally, can't see how you can stand listening to the subbed versions but that's just me. I want to sit back and soak it all up and not have to worry about reading. Though I don't know if I would prefer a bad dub over a sub.

I also like the series to have at least good visual quality. I mean I am *watching* something and I want to get the best vision I can of the characters and the surrounding.

And if the main character is too much of a pretty boy or too much of a blockhead or too dumb (You get my point) then I wont watch it.

merylsilverburg · Feb 22nd, 2003, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by Preventer Wind

I, personally, can't see how you can stand listening to the subbed versions but that's just me. I want to sit back and soak it all up and not have to worry about reading. Though I don't know if I would prefer a bad dub over a sub.

Hey, that's cool, I can understand that. To be honest, I was like that before too. I used to like watching dubs because I was too lazy to read the subtitles...but then I started to watch some really awful dubbing and it just started to get to me. So, that's why I "converted".

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And if the main character is too much of a pretty boy or too much of a blockhead or too dumb (You get my point) then I wont watch it.

If the main character is visually a pretty boy, but is not so much so, then I don't have such a problem. But, if the guy is a real complete wuss or, like you said, a blockhead I would get really irritated. Or just any character that's dumb or ditzy. That's why I don't think I'll ever watch Love Hina or anything like that.

BTW, thanks ssjtrunks.

Suzuki_Fanboy · Feb 22nd, 2003, 12:39 PM

The main things I hate in anime are crappy plots, bad animation, and bad dubs.

Valkrie Of Light · Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:06 AM

Well, being the very ungirly person I am, I prefer the fast action, heart pounding, steel and blood kind of anime... Mobile Suit: Gundam Wing, Ninja Scroll...Ninja Scroll not so much. Angel Sanctuary, Galaxy Express 999, along with others. But love is one of the most interesting, and compelling aspects in any media work. But only if its done right. I am a big fan of SM, but the love in that is not the kind im talking about.

I mean the kind like in Angel Sanctuary. A deep, true emotional love, much stronger then the "Oh I love you!" "I love you to!" "Lets hug!" "Ok!".

Anyways, I'm all for love stories... Most of my guy friends are to, but they feel if they admit they do they will be called "Gay" by their peers.

And guys with roses are totally my thing!

Seraph Sephiroth · Feb 23rd, 2003, 02:04 AM

*high-fives Valkrie* Right on! Men with roses are sexy! SEXY AS HELL!!

Anyway.. I deffinatly a big fan of love stories in anime.. *swoons* Angel Sanctuary being one of my favs.

Nelo Angelo · Feb 23rd, 2003, 03:13 AM

Men with roses. :p

Love story animes don't interest me.

Oh, and bad stories. >_>

ssjtrunks13 · Feb 23rd, 2003, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by merylsilverburg

BTW, thanks ssjtrunks.

No problem. I would never want to have anyone go through the sh*t I've been through. So, I try to be as nice as I can. I guess it's my mission in life.

Anyway, I just think that the 3 guys(that George guy in G Gundam, James in Pokemon, and the guy with the tuxedo in Sailor Moon) in anime I have seen with roses are kinda weird acting.

Valkrie Of Light · Feb 23rd, 2003, 04:39 PM

I just like the rose as a symbol. Beautiful, but deadly. Its a much better trade mark then a necklace or ring or something. Like the general treize in Gundam Wing is the best example of a rose carrier. Tuxedo mask...only good in japanese. In english I want to kick his pathetic ass.

merylsilverburg · Feb 23rd, 2003, 07:52 PM

A good anime with major use of roses is Shoujo Kakumei Utena.

The guys in there have roses pinned to their shirts for dueling and a bit of "romantic" flair, but it's not as annoying as when other anime guys use it. Like Valkrie said, Tuxedo Mask in the English version.

Preventer Wind · Feb 23rd, 2003, 08:57 PM

Yeah I have to agree with Valkrie about Treize from Gundam Wing being the best "rose person".

It is my opinion that Sailor Moon is the worst anime next to Hamtaro (If Hamtaro is even an anime). And Tuxedo Mask was the worst character in sailor moon. The only thing I really like about Sailor Moon is when they changed into sailor scouts

But I have not seen the Japanese version so don't totally hate me...

Oh and Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho (or Ghost Rider I think) is pretty cool too.

merylsilverburg · Feb 23rd, 2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Preventer Wind

It is my opinion that Sailor Moon is the worst anime next to Hamtaro (If Hamtaro is even an anime).

Yes, Hamtaro is an anime. Actually, I believe the Japanese version of Hamtaro is better. The English one isn't so good, I think. But it is a pretty cute anime.

ssjtrunks13 · Feb 23rd, 2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Valkrie Of Light

I just like the rose as a symbol. Beautiful, but deadly. Its a much better trade mark then a necklace or ring or something. Like the general treize in Gundam Wing is the best example of a rose carrier. Tuxedo mask...only good in japanese. In english I want to kick his pathetic ass.

I didn't know Treize had a rose. I guess I hadn't noticed because he was different than the others I mentioned.

Preventer Wind · Feb 23rd, 2003, 09:25 PM

Yep, he's got a rose. But I guess unlike some of the other guys you mentioned (especially Tuxedo Mask) he really doesn't throw it around.

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Originally posted by merylsilverburg

Yes, Hamtaro is an anime. Actually, I believe the Japanese version of Hamtaro is better. The English one isn't so good, I think. But it is a pretty cute anime.

If little "ham hams" running around is your idea of cute then all the power to you

Valkrie Of Light · Feb 23rd, 2003, 10:55 PM

Well Zechs...Milliardo..Wind..Whatever!

. The english version of sailor moon is not like the english version of other animes.

Sailor Moon was not censored. The plot itself was changed greatly. Why? Mostly because the japanese version dealt with serious issues, and the Senshi were all very independant, strong people... So the censors said '' Well... I know! Let's make them ditsy girls and have them obsess over boys and be like stereotype cheerleaders!" And then it changed over to "Lets turn it into an afterschool special!with happy friendship and joy joy joy!" Watch some japanese episodes. Trust me, it is a completly different show.

HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT NOTICE TREIZE SAMA'S ROSE!?

Preventer Wind · Feb 23rd, 2003, 11:12 PM

Hopefully it is a much different show cause watching the English version reminds me of sitting next to some cheerleaders only they have special powers.

But even if it is much different I still don't like the idea of the series. But looks like I am going to have to download some episodes. Thanks to my high-speed connection I'll be able to do it in a day, hopefully.

You forgot lightning count in there

Valkrie Of Light · Feb 23rd, 2003, 11:30 PM

"Lightning Baron...or should I call you, Lightning Count?"

Anyways, by watching the english eps, you dont know a thing about what the shows about..seriously!

Anyways I'd prefer to watch Angel Sanctuary then SM

Hero · Mar 12th, 2003, 05:25 AM

Sorry for the random bumpage, but I had to get my piece in!

I agree 120% with sstrunks... Roses are not cool in any way, and Tuxedo Mask will meet me in Hell for punishment. (Yes in Hell, the lame anime characters are brought into reality and punished by the likes of me).

What else can I not stand? Male characters that have the chicks all over them, but act all cool about it. (Like Sasuke-kun from Naruto) "Oh (insert-random-name-here)! You are so hot!" - Some really cute chick, "Leave me alone, you filthy swine!" - (random-name-from-before)

Main characters that suck 90% of the anime until the last two episodes or something. That really bakes my noodle. How can someone be the main character if they never win? And whenever they do win, (usually by way of the most cheapest tactic in the world) they don't get acknowledged for it.

This happens also in Naruto, when

Spoiler: show

No one noticed it! And acknowledgement was not given either!

Another thing I hate... I'm not a homophobe or anything but I don't like "questionably gay male characters". It's not because I don't like homosexuals, it's just that I don't like being confused about it. Like Subaru from X... Is he a fruit or isn't he? He lays down in a bed with a dude, without freaking out, he lights a cigarette for another dude while he's up close and personal, but he still gives off waves that he's straight, or at least, on a thin line.

Feb 23rd, 2003, 02:04 AM	#28
Seraph Sephiroth Member Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Nibelheim, ShinRa Mansion Age: 40 Posts: 136	high-fives Valkrie Right on! Men with roses are sexy! SEXY AS HELL!! Anyway.. I deffinatly a big fan of love stories in anime.. swoons Angel Sanctuary being one of my favs. __________________ "Let's take back the planet together..." -Seraphim Sephiroth Seraphim Sephiroth's Sephiroth Shrine

Feb 23rd, 2003, 07:52 PM	#32
merylsilverburg Enemy or Ally? Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,023	A good anime with major use of roses is Shoujo Kakumei Utena. The guys in there have roses pinned to their shirts for dueling and a bit of "romantic" flair, but it's not as annoying as when other anime guys use it. Like Valkrie said, Tuxedo Mask in the English version. __________________ "You're a louse Roger Smith" ~ R. Dorothy Wayneright "Have a little priest" ~ Mrs. Lovett "Grim Reaper, you could not get the women? What was the problem? Didn't you reap them with your grim reaping equipment?" "I tried that but the women, they all know hopscotch" ~ Eddie Izzard You Can Help

Feb 23rd, 2003, 08:57 PM	#33
Preventer Wind Senior Member Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 464	Yeah I have to agree with Valkrie about Treize from Gundam Wing being the best "rose person". It is my opinion that Sailor Moon is the worst anime next to Hamtaro (If Hamtaro is even an anime). And Tuxedo Mask was the worst character in sailor moon. The only thing I really like about Sailor Moon is when they changed into sailor scouts But I have not seen the Japanese version so don't totally hate me... Oh and Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho (or Ghost Rider I think) is pretty cool too. __________________ "Know thy enemy and know thy self," "Find naught to fear in 100 battles." "Know not thy enemy, but know thy self," "Find victory and defeat in equal measure" "Know thy enemy, but know not thy self," "Find defeat in every battle." Sun Tzu

Feb 23rd, 2003, 11:12 PM	#38
Preventer Wind Senior Member Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 464	Hopefully it is a much different show cause watching the English version reminds me of sitting next to some cheerleaders only they have special powers. But even if it is much different I still don't like the idea of the series. But looks like I am going to have to download some episodes. Thanks to my high-speed connection I'll be able to do it in a day, hopefully. You forgot lightning count in there __________________ "Know thy enemy and know thy self," "Find naught to fear in 100 battles." "Know not thy enemy, but know thy self," "Find victory and defeat in equal measure" "Know thy enemy, but know not thy self," "Find defeat in every battle." Sun Tzu

Mar 12th, 2003, 05:25 AM	#40
Hero Lost Hero Joined: Mar 2003 Location: California... For now... Age: 40 Posts: 225	Sorry for the random bumpage, but I had to get my piece in! I agree 120% with sstrunks... Roses are not cool in any way, and Tuxedo Mask will meet me in Hell for punishment. (Yes in Hell, the lame anime characters are brought into reality and punished by the likes of me). What else can I not stand? Male characters that have the chicks all over them, but act all cool about it. (Like Sasuke-kun from Naruto) "Oh (insert-random-name-here)! You are so hot!" - Some really cute chick, "Leave me alone, you filthy swine!" - (random-name-from-before) Main characters that suck 90% of the anime until the last two episodes or something. That really bakes my noodle. How can someone be the main character if they never win? And whenever they do win, (usually by way of the most cheapest tactic in the world) they don't get acknowledged for it. This happens also in Naruto, when Spoiler: show Naruto is fighting Haku, and he thinks Haku killed Sasuke. He realizes that Sasuke is really his friend and goes all nuts and pounds Haku into the ground... No one noticed it! And acknowledgement was not given either! Another thing I hate... I'm not a homophobe or anything but I don't like "questionably gay male characters". It's not because I don't like homosexuals, it's just that I don't like being confused about it. Like Subaru from X... Is he a fruit or isn't he? He lays down in a bed with a dude, without freaking out, he lights a cigarette for another dude while he's up close and personal, but he still gives off waves that he's straight, or at least, on a thin line. __________________

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Feb 21st, 2003, 12:28 PM	#21
ssjtrunks13 Results May Vary Joined: Sep 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 2,712	The only time I will hate love stuff in anime is if that's what the show is primarily about, I hate it when all there is is the love stuff and not much action going on. I would like to watch the Japanese-subtitled stuff if only I could get away from reading the words and watching what's going on and then watch it a cond time reading the dialogue.

Feb 21st, 2003, 09:57 PM	#23
ssjtrunks13 Results May Vary Joined: Sep 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 2,712	I'd be cool with anything you said, meryl.

Feb 22nd, 2003, 01:08 AM	#24
Preventer Wind Senior Member Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Ohio Age: 36 Posts: 464	I, personally, can't see how you can stand listening to the subbed versions but that's just me. I want to sit back and soak it all up and not have to worry about reading. Though I don't know if I would prefer a bad dub over a sub. I also like the series to have at least good visual quality. I mean I am watching something and I want to get the best vision I can of the characters and the surrounding. And if the main character is too much of a pretty boy or too much of a blockhead or too dumb (You get my point) then I wont watch it.

Feb 22nd, 2003, 12:39 PM	#26
Suzuki_Fanboy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 409	The main things I hate in anime are crappy plots, bad animation, and bad dubs.

Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:06 AM	#27
Valkrie Of Light Registered User Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 77	Well, being the very ungirly person I am, I prefer the fast action, heart pounding, steel and blood kind of anime... Mobile Suit: Gundam Wing, Ninja Scroll...Ninja Scroll not so much. Angel Sanctuary, Galaxy Express 999, along with others. But love is one of the most interesting, and compelling aspects in any media work. But only if its done right. I am a big fan of SM, but the love in that is not the kind im talking about. I mean the kind like in Angel Sanctuary. A deep, true emotional love, much stronger then the "Oh I love you!" "I love you to!" "Lets hug!" "Ok!". Anyways, I'm all for love stories... Most of my guy friends are to, but they feel if they admit they do they will be called "Gay" by their peers. And guys with roses are totally my thing!

Feb 23rd, 2003, 03:13 AM	#29
Nelo Angelo Victory is Mine! Joined: Dec 2002 Location: :O Age: 36 Posts: 530	Men with roses. :p Love story animes don't interest me. Oh, and bad stories. >_>

Feb 23rd, 2003, 04:39 PM	#31
Valkrie Of Light Registered User Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 77	I just like the rose as a symbol. Beautiful, but deadly. Its a much better trade mark then a necklace or ring or something. Like the general treize in Gundam Wing is the best example of a rose carrier. Tuxedo mask...only good in japanese. In english I want to kick his pathetic ass.

Feb 23rd, 2003, 10:55 PM	#37
Valkrie Of Light Registered User Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 77	Well Zechs...Milliardo..Wind..Whatever! . The english version of sailor moon is not like the english version of other animes. Sailor Moon was not censored. The plot itself was changed greatly. Why? Mostly because the japanese version dealt with serious issues, and the Senshi were all very independant, strong people... So the censors said '' Well... I know! Let's make them ditsy girls and have them obsess over boys and be like stereotype cheerleaders!" And then it changed over to "Lets turn it into an afterschool special!with happy friendship and joy joy joy!" Watch some japanese episodes. Trust me, it is a completly different show. HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT NOTICE TREIZE SAMA'S ROSE!?

Feb 23rd, 2003, 11:30 PM	#39
Valkrie Of Light Registered User Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 77	"Lightning Baron...or should I call you, Lightning Count?" Anyways, by watching the english eps, you dont know a thing about what the shows about..seriously! Anyways I'd prefer to watch Angel Sanctuary then SM

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