Was the Story that BAD?.?.?

MakgSnake · Dec 24th, 2002, 11:03 PM

Ok, I love it, and think its beautiful. But recently I have been reading not at just few places over the net and mags, but almost everywhere..............that Sons Of Liberty storyline was lame, boring and a little too over dramatic and all!!! I have been reading this everywhere. So I ask you people, was it really that bad?... What do you think of it?.... Liked it or....didn't....or "DIDn't GET IT!"......

Beretta55 · Dec 25th, 2002, 12:00 AM

i havent beaten the game but i have seen it be beat from start to finish. the story line is great it kept me interested. but not the best story line in the world though.

MakgSnake · Dec 25th, 2002, 03:44 PM

Well yeah, many people wouldn't think its the best, I just think the Patriots and everything surrounding them was amazing. It was another level thing. A story line that would be in every single game after 30 years. The story line in my opinion was way way way ahead of its time. I loved IT!!

dan da man · Dec 25th, 2002, 04:12 PM

very good story line the, best ever!!!!!!!!!! how can u say it was bad?
ppl r just jealous!!

Frozen · Dec 26th, 2002, 12:44 AM

I think it was badass. Topics like that are seldom touched by videogames in the way it was done in SOL. Not the best storyline ever, but one of the best for me.

P.S: Makg, be always mindful that this world is full of morons

Dr.Doom · Dec 26th, 2002, 10:48 AM

i'm only half way through the game but I must say the STORY rocks.....I love all the twist and turns in the game.....WOW they created a great game!!!

Daedaelus · Dec 26th, 2002, 11:31 AM

I have to admit, I was a little confused the first time I played the game, but the second time I beat it, and watched all the cut-scenes and movies, I understood everything. In my opinion, it was one of the best stories I've ever seen in a videogame. The first time I didn't understand it was because I didn't bother to watch any movies because I was just too excited to finish the game.

P.S. Frozen: good advice

Nelo Angelo · Dec 26th, 2002, 01:28 PM

I didn't think the story was bad at all. It was a badass story.

MakgSnake · Dec 26th, 2002, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frozen

P.S: Makg, be always mindful that this world is full of morons

True, but then after reading at EGM and IGN and GameSpot and GamePro and all major mags and sites, saying the story was boring and lame really hurts!

but then you are so right!

mark0™ · Dec 27th, 2002, 09:45 PM

I feel the Metal Gear story is getting a little weak

I mean c'mon, the Title is Metal Gear But the Metal Gear(s) and Arsenal Gear wasnt the main focus of the story, the Patriots were!!! And if MGS3 is continuing on the quest to find the Patriots, where is a Metal Gear gonna step in, I think they should change the name, and allow the tactical Espionage Action to follow some other story plans not involving Metal Gear, after all, We learn in MGS2 that Metal Gear is a world wide weapon and is readily available to forces, It doesnt have that certain "Mystery" and "Legendary" Image to it anymore

Does anyone else here feel that Metal Gear wont be the main Focus of MGS3?

MakgSnake · Dec 27th, 2002, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mark0

We learn in MGS2 that Metal Gear is a world wide weapon and is readily available to forces

Does anyone else here feel that Metal Gear wont be the main Focus of MGS3?

Well you see thats the reason, we all know what Metal Gear is actually, each episode expains Metal Gear and its the same thing again and again, which gets repetitive. There has been 5 of them out in the market and all of them had simlar thing about Metal Gear, just extra new features are added with better models and everything.
The story do revolved around Metal Gear, but other things should come in, and stuff like Patriots is one of the best things Ive ever heard!!!.!!!
I would like to know more about Metal Gear RAY and Arsenal Gear first in MGS3, before a NEW metal gear shows up. Knowing more about Metal Gear Ray even in the next chapter would give the series a better sequal in my opinion.

merylsilverburg · Dec 30th, 2002, 07:44 AM

MGS2's storyline is very good, but it wasn't the best, IMO. The storyline also confused me a little and I didn't really understand it until I came here for some answers and played it again.

Thinking about it though, this storyline kinda reminds me of The Matrix....maybe not totally alike to it, but it does have some similar elements.
I think the main reason why many said the story isn't the best is because of the confusing parts and the attempt to have major plot twists, which were good but didn't end up too well (except the Patriots part). Most percent of people hate things they don't understand.

And while Makg said that all the previous games talked about the Metal Gears, so it's getting repetitive, it might not be that way for people who only started playing with MGS and MGS2. That's why I agree spending some time to talk about Metal Gear Ray would've been good, though its purpose is already somewhat stated in the game.

Suzuki_Fanboy · Dec 30th, 2002, 01:03 PM

The story was excellent

but after playing Shenmue...I can't give it the "one of the best storylines ever" title. Anyways, we all know that Metal Gear Solid's storyline was totally beast, in my like...top 5. [OFF TOPIC] Man, I need to beat that again... [/OFF TOPIC] It's also one of the straight up best games ever...

I liked MGS2's story, but I can see why some people wouldn't. EGM said something like "there are too many twists," then proceeded to give GTA3 higher scores than MGS2 (

) One part that really really pissed me of was: Raiden. Why, oh why, mastar Kojima, could we not be Snake!!! Oh well, still a great game nonetheless...gets a solid 9.8 in my book.

P.S. I liked the way you incorporated the smiley's into the poll

dan da man · Dec 30th, 2002, 07:27 PM

why dosent anyone like raiden?

ok i was upset that i was not solid snake, but then i got to like him!

MakgSnake · Dec 30th, 2002, 09:10 PM

I think Raiden is a great character. At first I didn't like him either, but without him there couldn't be Metal Gear Solid 2. He is the part of this Saga, and I hope he keeps returning to the Metal Gear games till he becomes as old as Solid Snake.

Edit: Thanks Suzuki.

Beretta55 · Dec 30th, 2002, 09:13 PM

raiden was cool. he wasnt a solid snake but i wouldnt like another solid snake. i just like rookie's or new people im weird like that

i do admit i didnt like raiden just like that. i wanted to play as snake for the whole game but raiden grew on me.

PS2Girl · Jan 9th, 2003, 04:55 PM

the mgs2

OL storyline was awesome to me and i couldnt stop playing it

ssjtrunks13 · Jan 10th, 2003, 10:23 AM

I liked the storyline alot. It was a nice break of how similar the plots in RPGs seem.

Animaman · Jan 11th, 2003, 10:17 PM

I never liked Raiden much either, but he was there 2 show us a side of Snake that we couldn't see playing as him, and for that i don't mind him.

Gaseous_Baboon · Jan 25th, 2003, 03:22 PM

The story is amazing... The wow factor is off the charts and its just unreasonable to expect better from a video game. I just had one problem... Otacon. Shudder.... why do we need to KNOW that about his mom?! I mean. he would have had a perfectly touching sister moment if he didn't explain stuff after she died. Yuck! Nearing the climax of the game, we really didn't need that.
That is just one part of the story to nitpick at. Like I said, its an amazing story.

View Poll Results: What do you think of "Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons Of Liberty" Storyline?.?.?
Its one of the best Story Lines I have ever seen in a VideoGame.	11	44.00%
It was alright, not bad I'd say.	10	40.00%
Nah...I can't buy all that, it could have been better.	2	8.00%
Horrible, boring....I slept through it. What WAS Kojima thinking???	2	8.00%
It went through my head, so please dont ask me!	0	0%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

Dec 24th, 2002, 11:03 PM	#1
MakgSnake Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Mississuaga, Canada. Posts: 3,554	Was the Story that BAD?.?.? Ok, I love it, and think its beautiful. But recently I have been reading not at just few places over the net and mags, but almost everywhere..............that Sons Of Liberty storyline was lame, boring and a little too over dramatic and all!!! I have been reading this everywhere. So I ask you people, was it really that bad?... What do you think of it?.... Liked it or....didn't....or "DIDn't GET IT!"...... __________________

Dec 25th, 2002, 12:00 AM	#2
Beretta55 Reached for the sky Joined: May 2002 Location: The road less traveled Age: 34 Posts: 2,465	i havent beaten the game but i have seen it be beat from start to finish. the story line is great it kept me interested. but not the best story line in the world though. __________________

Dec 25th, 2002, 03:44 PM	#3
MakgSnake Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Mississuaga, Canada. Posts: 3,554	Well yeah, many people wouldn't think its the best, I just think the Patriots and everything surrounding them was amazing. It was another level thing. A story line that would be in every single game after 30 years. The story line in my opinion was way way way ahead of its time. I loved IT!! __________________

Dec 25th, 2002, 04:12 PM	#4
dan da man Talk to the hand Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,520	very good story line the, best ever!!!!!!!!!! how can u say it was bad? ppl r just jealous!! __________________ Gaming Is For Life, Not Just For Christmas!

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Was the Story that BAD?.?.?

Dec 26th, 2002, 12:44 AM	#5
Frozen Dante May Cry Joined: May 2002 Location: America's Guard of Honor: 82nd Airborne Division Age: 40 Posts: 1,523	I think it was badass. Topics like that are seldom touched by videogames in the way it was done in SOL. Not the best storyline ever, but one of the best for me. P.S: Makg, be always mindful that this world is full of morons __________________

Dec 26th, 2002, 10:48 AM	#6
Dr.Doom Registered User Joined: Dec 2002 Location: SomeWhere Age: 36 Posts: 29	i'm only half way through the game but I must say the STORY rocks.....I love all the twist and turns in the game.....WOW they created a great game!!!

Dec 26th, 2002, 11:31 AM	#7
Daedaelus I'm Rick James ***** Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Outset Island Age: 43 Posts: 725	I have to admit, I was a little confused the first time I played the game, but the second time I beat it, and watched all the cut-scenes and movies, I understood everything. In my opinion, it was one of the best stories I've ever seen in a videogame. The first time I didn't understand it was because I didn't bother to watch any movies because I was just too excited to finish the game. P.S. Frozen: good advice __________________ The Tree of Life...

Dec 26th, 2002, 01:28 PM	#8
Nelo Angelo Victory is Mine! Joined: Dec 2002 Location: :O Age: 36 Posts: 530	I didn't think the story was bad at all. It was a badass story.

Dec 27th, 2002, 09:45 PM	#10
mark0™ Extinct. Joined: Nov 2002 Age: 37 Posts: 1,185	I feel the Metal Gear story is getting a little weak I mean c'mon, the Title is Metal Gear But the Metal Gear(s) and Arsenal Gear wasnt the main focus of the story, the Patriots were!!! And if MGS3 is continuing on the quest to find the Patriots, where is a Metal Gear gonna step in, I think they should change the name, and allow the tactical Espionage Action to follow some other story plans not involving Metal Gear, after all, We learn in MGS2 that Metal Gear is a world wide weapon and is readily available to forces, It doesnt have that certain "Mystery" and "Legendary" Image to it anymore Does anyone else here feel that Metal Gear wont be the main Focus of MGS3?

Dec 30th, 2002, 07:44 AM	#12
merylsilverburg Enemy or Ally? Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,023	MGS2's storyline is very good, but it wasn't the best, IMO. The storyline also confused me a little and I didn't really understand it until I came here for some answers and played it again. Thinking about it though, this storyline kinda reminds me of The Matrix....maybe not totally alike to it, but it does have some similar elements. I think the main reason why many said the story isn't the best is because of the confusing parts and the attempt to have major plot twists, which were good but didn't end up too well (except the Patriots part). Most percent of people hate things they don't understand. And while Makg said that all the previous games talked about the Metal Gears, so it's getting repetitive, it might not be that way for people who only started playing with MGS and MGS2. That's why I agree spending some time to talk about Metal Gear Ray would've been good, though its purpose is already somewhat stated in the game. __________________ "You're a louse Roger Smith" ~ R. Dorothy Wayneright "Have a little priest" ~ Mrs. Lovett "Grim Reaper, you could not get the women? What was the problem? Didn't you reap them with your grim reaping equipment?" "I tried that but the women, they all know hopscotch" ~ Eddie Izzard You Can Help

Dec 30th, 2002, 01:03 PM	#13
Suzuki_Fanboy Senior Member Joined: Dec 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 409	The story was excellent but after playing Shenmue...I can't give it the "one of the best storylines ever" title. Anyways, we all know that Metal Gear Solid's storyline was totally beast, in my like...top 5. [OFF TOPIC] Man, I need to beat that again... [/OFF TOPIC] It's also one of the straight up best games ever... I liked MGS2's story, but I can see why some people wouldn't. EGM said something like "there are too many twists," then proceeded to give GTA3 higher scores than MGS2 () One part that really really pissed me of was: Raiden. Why, oh why, mastar Kojima, could we not be Snake!!! Oh well, still a great game nonetheless...gets a solid 9.8 in my book. P.S. I liked the way you incorporated the smiley's into the poll

Dec 30th, 2002, 07:27 PM	#14
dan da man Talk to the hand Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,520	why dosent anyone like raiden? ok i was upset that i was not solid snake, but then i got to like him! __________________ Gaming Is For Life, Not Just For Christmas!

Dec 30th, 2002, 09:10 PM	#15
MakgSnake Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Mississuaga, Canada. Posts: 3,554	I think Raiden is a great character. At first I didn't like him either, but without him there couldn't be Metal Gear Solid 2. He is the part of this Saga, and I hope he keeps returning to the Metal Gear games till he becomes as old as Solid Snake. Edit: Thanks Suzuki. __________________

Dec 30th, 2002, 09:13 PM	#16
Beretta55 Reached for the sky Joined: May 2002 Location: The road less traveled Age: 34 Posts: 2,465	raiden was cool. he wasnt a solid snake but i wouldnt like another solid snake. i just like rookie's or new people im weird like that i do admit i didnt like raiden just like that. i wanted to play as snake for the whole game but raiden grew on me. __________________

Jan 9th, 2003, 04:55 PM	#17
PS2Girl Registered User Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 71	the mgs2OL storyline was awesome to me and i couldnt stop playing it

Jan 10th, 2003, 10:23 AM	#18
ssjtrunks13 Results May Vary Joined: Sep 2002 Age: 38 Posts: 2,712	I liked the storyline alot. It was a nice break of how similar the plots in RPGs seem.

Jan 11th, 2003, 10:17 PM	#19
Animaman Trust no1 Joined: Nov 2002 Location: England Age: 36 Posts: 29	I never liked Raiden much either, but he was there 2 show us a side of Snake that we couldn't see playing as him, and for that i don't mind him.

Jan 25th, 2003, 03:22 PM	#20
Gaseous_Baboon Registered User Joined: Jan 2003 Location: Garland, Texas Age: 38 Posts: 37	The story is amazing... The wow factor is off the charts and its just unreasonable to expect better from a video game. I just had one problem... Otacon. Shudder.... why do we need to KNOW that about his mom?! I mean. he would have had a perfectly touching sister moment if he didn't explain stuff after she died. Yuck! Nearing the climax of the game, we really didn't need that. That is just one part of the story to nitpick at. Like I said, its an amazing story.

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