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Hadoken · Apr 7th, 2002, 06:02 PM

when you first start out in kumite mode with your A.I., it`ll be at 10th kyu. Which is the lowest rank possible. At this stage in time, your A.I. is practiclly a moron, so you have to spar with it so it learns moves so it can fight for itself.
Whenever you win a fight in kumite mode using your A.I., it will gain experience points. every time it increases 100 points, it will go up a rank.
So its 10th kyu, 9th kyu, 8th kyu, and so on and so forth.
Until you reach 9th kyu, then when you win that last match to get past 1000 experiance points, your A.I. will gain the rank of 1st dan.
After that, experiance points will no longer be used. And your A.I. will gain ranks depending on winning points. Which is how many times your A.I. has won.
From 1st dan to 10th dan, you have to get 5 winning points. at the beggining of each dan rank, you will have 5 winning points. To gain a winning point, you must win against a challenger, which will increase your winning points by 1. after you get 5, you will increase a rank. if you lose 5 winning points, then you will go down a rank. so its +1 or -1 depending on wether you win or lose matches.

go to gamefaqs.com, there should be a guide that could help you learn about ranks.

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 7th, 2002, 06:44 PM

Ok got you on that part.How bout counters i read the instructions on how to do them but i can't execute.Also i always get my ass kicked my the 1 dans and up and the end boss of the game how do i beat them.I get one or two matches up on them and they come back and kick my ass.

Hadoken · Apr 7th, 2002, 09:39 PM

Each character has different counters, and some characters cant counter at all.
It depends on who your using. Check the game manual and look at your characters moves. It should show you they`re reversals. for instance, lei fei has a reversal move he can use. actually, its more of a stance, and when he`s in that stance, if the opponent happens to punch him, he will reverse it.
If you have trouble, you can always practice your A.I.`s reversals in one of the training sections.

with the 1st dans and up. all you have to do is train your A.I., the more you spar with it, the better it will fight. And make sure you teach it as many moves as possible. And make sure when you train it moves, it understands how to perform each one. You should do the move first, then let your A.I. try. If if messes up, there will be a question mark in that box on the screen. That means that your A.I. is having problems learning that move. Keep showing it the move, or try to do only parts of the move, then gradually increasing.
For instance, your trying to teach your A.I. the move with 5 punches in a row, and it can only do 3 punches. You should do 3 punches so your A.I. gets used to it, then increase to doing 4 punches, when it learns that well, move on to doing 5 punches.
If your in battle and you see a "?" in the box on the screen, that means your A.I. tried to perform a difficult move and couldnt pull it off. You should try and train it more.
But there are some moves your A.I. cant do until its at a high rank. you should still try to teach it as much as possible. If it doesnt learn a move after quite a few tries. Skip that move and move on. Try again later after it has gained a few ranks.
And in battle, you will see the word "play" in the box. That means your A.I. is looking for some advice. It usually appears after it does a good move. The word play with then appear. Press O if you liked the move and would like your A.I. to perform it more often. And press X if you didnt like it and would like your A.I. to perfom it less often.

About the last boss(Dural), well... you just have to practice and know your moves. If your having a lot of difficulty beating it, just quit and set the difficulty down a level and try again. It shouldnt be too hard if you know your moves well.

Did i forget anything else? If you need help, just ask. Or try gamefaqs.com, they have a lot of guides that have helped me.

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 8th, 2002, 09:38 PM

Thanx that helped alot.I got a new stragety to fight the end boss.Im going to build up my a.i and let it fight her

Mercury Shadow · Apr 9th, 2002, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SSSnake
Thanx that helped alot.I got a new stragety to fight the end boss.Im going to build up my a.i and let it fight her

haha, I see how it is SSSnake, make your AI do all the work while you sit back and relax!

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 9th, 2002, 06:37 AM

The only thing is getting him to fight good enough to beat the boss.Its going to take a lot of sparring.

Hadoken · Apr 9th, 2002, 07:51 AM

yeah, training him is the tough part.
My A.I. can only beat the last boss on easy or very easy. He gets his ass kicked on normal.

BlackThornn · Apr 9th, 2002, 01:12 PM

Argh! I've gotten to 1st Kyu with my Kage-Maru character, but I keep getting beaten on now by 1st-3rd Dan AI players and even lesser ranked ones than me! What's with this? Are the AI players really that difficult to beat, or do I just suck?

(The characters I have trouble with are Lei Fei, Lao..uh.. something <Pai chan's dad> and Pai Chan.. they're just so cheapass, they knock me down once then keep attacking while I'm in the air, taking away at least half my life!

Any tricks to beating these cheap @#(@&#$'s?)

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 9th, 2002, 05:44 PM

Has anyone fought a hero.My friend has and there like the top rank and says there impossible.

BlackThornn · Apr 9th, 2002, 07:42 PM

I fought one that said "Champoin" instead of a rank like 1st Dan or 4th Kyu.. Won two, whereas he won three (champoin was Jacky character called something like "Tin Tin")

Hadoken · Apr 10th, 2002, 05:57 AM

lol! I`ve fought dozens of champions and heros. Their not all that tough if your A.I. is strong enough.
heck, I`ve even encountered conquerors, masters, and a whole mess of other high ranks. just wait till your A.I. gets stronger, then you`ll be fighting them all the time.

And blackthornn, your A.I. is always weak against certain kinds of opponents. even if that opponent is at a lower rank than you.
I use lei fei, and my A.I. always has trouble fighting jacky`s.
There really is no way to help that, except get your A.I. to use moves that work more often on them.

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 10th, 2002, 04:16 PM

I use jackie as my a.i and hes unstoppable now.I taught him every move in the book and he absolutley kicks ass.I can can't even beat him now.

Hadoken · Apr 10th, 2002, 04:19 PM

haha, what ranks are you fighting? 10th kyu`s?
You are gonna run into trouble later in the game. Somewhere around 7th or 8th dan probably. Thats when you have to fight those high ranked mofo`s. But if you train your A.I. well enough, it should be quick and easy.
btw, whats your current status sssnake?

Uchiha Sasuke · Apr 10th, 2002, 04:37 PM

My A.I is rated at 2nd dan.My person is at 1st dan.

Hadoken · Apr 10th, 2002, 11:44 PM

wha?
That didnt make sense.

BlackThornn · Apr 11th, 2002, 01:11 AM

I was talking about me, personally. I keep getting whalloped on with any character once I reach about 3rd Dan. I've tried Pai Chan, Lei Fei (did best with him), and Kage-Maru.

My AI, it seems, is just a complete dumbass.. no matter how I train it it gets beaten down by pretty much any character it comes up on. This is after starting over and trying your AI Training tips up there, Hadoken.

It's a great game, but I think just not to my taste. I'm gonna see if I can trade it in for Maximo.

Hadoken · Apr 11th, 2002, 07:05 AM

what?
it STILL gets beaten down even after trying my tips?
thats just wrong man. either you dont let him fight enough, or his stats are way down.

Mercury Shadow · Apr 15th, 2002, 06:28 PM

I just rented VF4 and it's amazing!! The only problem is, i don't know how to clear the data that's on from before... hmmm. I can't start out a new Kumite.

Killuminati · Apr 15th, 2002, 08:18 PM

u have to go to Data Files and create a new player........and then u can go through Kumite by pressing select at the character selection screen to bring up a list of ppl u have created

Mercury Shadow · Apr 16th, 2002, 05:36 AM

Ohhhh, thanks man. I'll have to try that when I get home from school today.

Apr 7th, 2002, 06:44 PM	#42
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	Ok got you on that part.How bout counters i read the instructions on how to do them but i can't execute.Also i always get my ass kicked my the 1 dans and up and the end boss of the game how do i beat them.I get one or two matches up on them and they come back and kick my ass. __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

Apr 8th, 2002, 09:38 PM	#44
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	Thanx that helped alot.I got a new stragety to fight the end boss.Im going to build up my a.i and let it fight her __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

Apr 9th, 2002, 06:37 AM	#46
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	The only thing is getting him to fight good enough to beat the boss.Its going to take a lot of sparring. __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

Apr 9th, 2002, 01:12 PM	#48
BlackThornn Teacher Banzai Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Holy Forest Academy Age: 46 Posts: 942	Argh! I've gotten to 1st Kyu with my Kage-Maru character, but I keep getting beaten on now by 1st-3rd Dan AI players and even lesser ranked ones than me! What's with this? Are the AI players really that difficult to beat, or do I just suck? (The characters I have trouble with are Lei Fei, Lao..uh.. something <Pai chan's dad> and Pai Chan.. they're just so cheapass, they knock me down once then keep attacking while I'm in the air, taking away at least half my life! Any tricks to beating these cheap @#(@&#$'s?) __________________ I am the Thornn in your side. The Matrix has you.

Apr 9th, 2002, 05:44 PM	#49
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	Has anyone fought a hero.My friend has and there like the top rank and says there impossible. __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

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Apr 7th, 2002, 06:02 PM	#41
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	when you first start out in kumite mode with your A.I., it`ll be at 10th kyu. Which is the lowest rank possible. At this stage in time, your A.I. is practiclly a moron, so you have to spar with it so it learns moves so it can fight for itself. Whenever you win a fight in kumite mode using your A.I., it will gain experience points. every time it increases 100 points, it will go up a rank. So its 10th kyu, 9th kyu, 8th kyu, and so on and so forth. Until you reach 9th kyu, then when you win that last match to get past 1000 experiance points, your A.I. will gain the rank of 1st dan. After that, experiance points will no longer be used. And your A.I. will gain ranks depending on winning points. Which is how many times your A.I. has won. From 1st dan to 10th dan, you have to get 5 winning points. at the beggining of each dan rank, you will have 5 winning points. To gain a winning point, you must win against a challenger, which will increase your winning points by 1. after you get 5, you will increase a rank. if you lose 5 winning points, then you will go down a rank. so its +1 or -1 depending on wether you win or lose matches. go to gamefaqs.com, there should be a guide that could help you learn about ranks.

Apr 7th, 2002, 09:39 PM	#43
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	Each character has different counters, and some characters cant counter at all. It depends on who your using. Check the game manual and look at your characters moves. It should show you they`re reversals. for instance, lei fei has a reversal move he can use. actually, its more of a stance, and when he`s in that stance, if the opponent happens to punch him, he will reverse it. If you have trouble, you can always practice your A.I.`s reversals in one of the training sections. with the 1st dans and up. all you have to do is train your A.I., the more you spar with it, the better it will fight. And make sure you teach it as many moves as possible. And make sure when you train it moves, it understands how to perform each one. You should do the move first, then let your A.I. try. If if messes up, there will be a question mark in that box on the screen. That means that your A.I. is having problems learning that move. Keep showing it the move, or try to do only parts of the move, then gradually increasing. For instance, your trying to teach your A.I. the move with 5 punches in a row, and it can only do 3 punches. You should do 3 punches so your A.I. gets used to it, then increase to doing 4 punches, when it learns that well, move on to doing 5 punches. If your in battle and you see a "?" in the box on the screen, that means your A.I. tried to perform a difficult move and couldnt pull it off. You should try and train it more. But there are some moves your A.I. cant do until its at a high rank. you should still try to teach it as much as possible. If it doesnt learn a move after quite a few tries. Skip that move and move on. Try again later after it has gained a few ranks. And in battle, you will see the word "play" in the box. That means your A.I. is looking for some advice. It usually appears after it does a good move. The word play with then appear. Press O if you liked the move and would like your A.I. to perform it more often. And press X if you didnt like it and would like your A.I. to perfom it less often. About the last boss(Dural), well... you just have to practice and know your moves. If your having a lot of difficulty beating it, just quit and set the difficulty down a level and try again. It shouldnt be too hard if you know your moves well. Did i forget anything else? If you need help, just ask. Or try gamefaqs.com, they have a lot of guides that have helped me.

Apr 9th, 2002, 07:51 AM	#47
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	yeah, training him is the tough part. My A.I. can only beat the last boss on easy or very easy. He gets his ass kicked on normal.

Apr 9th, 2002, 07:42 PM	#50
BlackThornn Teacher Banzai Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Holy Forest Academy Age: 46 Posts: 942	I fought one that said "Champoin" instead of a rank like 1st Dan or 4th Kyu.. Won two, whereas he won three (champoin was Jacky character called something like "Tin Tin") __________________ I am the Thornn in your side. The Matrix has you.

Apr 10th, 2002, 05:57 AM	#51
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	lol! I`ve fought dozens of champions and heros. Their not all that tough if your A.I. is strong enough. heck, I`ve even encountered conquerors, masters, and a whole mess of other high ranks. just wait till your A.I. gets stronger, then you`ll be fighting them all the time. And blackthornn, your A.I. is always weak against certain kinds of opponents. even if that opponent is at a lower rank than you. I use lei fei, and my A.I. always has trouble fighting jacky`s. There really is no way to help that, except get your A.I. to use moves that work more often on them.

Apr 10th, 2002, 04:16 PM	#52
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	I use jackie as my a.i and hes unstoppable now.I taught him every move in the book and he absolutley kicks ass.I can can't even beat him now. __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

Apr 10th, 2002, 04:19 PM	#53
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	haha, what ranks are you fighting? 10th kyu`s? You are gonna run into trouble later in the game. Somewhere around 7th or 8th dan probably. Thats when you have to fight those high ranked mofo`s. But if you train your A.I. well enough, it should be quick and easy. btw, whats your current status sssnake?

Apr 10th, 2002, 04:37 PM	#54
Uchiha Sasuke Cursed Joined: Jan 2002 Location: AWOL! Age: 39 Posts: 3,841	My A.I is rated at 2nd dan.My person is at 1st dan. __________________ *~I've Lost Myself, Life no longer matters~* *~The Official Ps2Fantasy Ninja~* *~A Life Without Love, Is No Life At All~* Social Networks

Apr 10th, 2002, 11:44 PM	#55
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	wha? That didnt make sense.

Apr 11th, 2002, 01:11 AM	#56
BlackThornn Teacher Banzai Joined: Mar 2002 Location: Holy Forest Academy Age: 46 Posts: 942	I was talking about me, personally. I keep getting whalloped on with any character once I reach about 3rd Dan. I've tried Pai Chan, Lei Fei (did best with him), and Kage-Maru. My AI, it seems, is just a complete dumbass.. no matter how I train it it gets beaten down by pretty much any character it comes up on. This is after starting over and trying your AI Training tips up there, Hadoken. It's a great game, but I think just not to my taste. I'm gonna see if I can trade it in for Maximo. __________________ I am the Thornn in your side. The Matrix has you.

Apr 11th, 2002, 07:05 AM	#57
Hadoken Senior Member Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Around Posts: 799	what? it STILL gets beaten down even after trying my tips? thats just wrong man. either you dont let him fight enough, or his stats are way down.

Apr 15th, 2002, 06:28 PM	#58
Mercury Shadow Calculating Infinity Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Virginia Age: 37 Posts: 883	I just rented VF4 and it's amazing!! The only problem is, i don't know how to clear the data that's on from before... hmmm. I can't start out a new Kumite. __________________ I'm Nobody's Weasel

Apr 15th, 2002, 08:18 PM	#59
Killuminati Tha Don Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Outer heaven Posts: 201	u have to go to Data Files and create a new player........and then u can go through Kumite by pressing select at the character selection screen to bring up a list of ppl u have created __________________

Apr 16th, 2002, 05:36 AM	#60
Mercury Shadow Calculating Infinity Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Virginia Age: 37 Posts: 883	Ohhhh, thanks man. I'll have to try that when I get home from school today. __________________ I'm Nobody's Weasel

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