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May 29th, 2002, 10:41 PM | #1 |
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X Box (Sink or swim)
Me and a buddy are on opposing sides of the console war. I am a hardcore Playstation fan and he ofcourse is obsessed witht he X Box particularly Halo. Its my opinion that the X Box will fail, die, and go away just as my lost love the Dreamcast did. Ofcourse due to the fact that microsoft is loosing money by the truckload with all the un bought X Boxes sitting on the many store shelves in Japan, the sales figures are more embarrasing than the games. The X Box has been out sold by the psone and the Dreamcast for many weeks. Hell the ps2 sold 80,000 plus units in Japan in the same month that the X Box sold a measly 13,000. The PSone sold 15,000 plus and the Dreamcast 14,000. I dont see how a system that has in a nutshell lost the support of an entire country can survive . Im still searching for the current to date sales figures for the X Box and ps2. So what do you guys think ? X Box Sink ?......or Swim ?. I vote sink
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May 29th, 2002, 10:50 PM | #2 |
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SwIm!! U gotta read about what Xbox has coming up. Online gaming is gonna be awesome. Xbox will have titles like Project Ego, Unreal Championship, Star Wars: KOTOR, SW galaxies, MGS substance, brute force, halo 2....theres so many! The price gap between Xbox and PS2 for the online costs are very different. For Xbox, all u need to pay is $49.99 for a year's subscription and the voice communicator, no game fees. For PS2, you need a $40 modem, an $80 hard drive (for games such as FFXI), plus game fees. PS2 is much more expensive. Xbox will begin to show its true power graphicswise. I think that many ppl are going to buy Xbox soon. There are 250 games to come out before 2003. It'll be awesome. The sales arent great right now, but its only been out 6 months! PS2 wasnt doing good when it was 6 months old! Give it time, and you'll see how good it is!
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May 29th, 2002, 11:00 PM | #3 |
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Swim, considering their Microsoft and they have TONS O' MONEY.......they'll make it no matter how bad they do, they have tons of money to fix their mistakes unlike DC who was already in debt at the time of the falling dreamcast. Plus with their affordable online play, sales should be rolling in and with the price cut, many ppl are considering Xbox now.
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May 29th, 2002, 11:03 PM | #4 |
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Sink. I think it's gonna die. Well, maybe not. But off the top of my head, the only good games I can think off are Halo and DoA (3?). They had to hop over there!
But still... Halo is playable for the PC so that's out. What can I say, I never liked the X-Box. It doesn't even have very many good games. Its graphics and power are great, I'll give it that, but that's about it. I don't know... maybe some good developers will make better games for it soon, and I hope they do. Until then, I don't see it swiming anywhere but to the bottom. |
May 29th, 2002, 11:08 PM | #5 |
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If it stays the way that it is now, then yes, it probably will sink, but if they make major changes to the system's physical design and come out with more games, then it might stand a chance. But...what good is a system's power if there are very few interesting games for it? And DOA3 was basically a DOA2 'Super Hardcore'
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May 29th, 2002, 11:09 PM | #6 |
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Ya, ur right Mena, why buy Xbox when all the xbox games are coming out for PC, which I know all u guyz have or u wouldnt be typing this........
Examples (Xbox to PC) -Halo (of course! with hardcore online play!) -Doom 3 (orginally for PC, moving to Xbox) -Return To Castle Wolfenstein (already out!) -Grand Theft Auto III (out for Ps2 and now PC!!) You see, why buy Xbox when u can jus buy the games for PC. A good VooDoo Video Card, and ur gfx will be better than the Xbox! |
May 29th, 2002, 11:12 PM | #7 |
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No one can truly predict the future, but I'm going to say the Xbox will swim. I watched the trailer for KOTOR and I am very interested in this game. Project Ego also looks promising.
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May 29th, 2002, 11:15 PM | #8 |
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I personally think Ps2 is much better than all the systems.......
Ps2: Twisted Metal Series Metal Gear Solid Series (soon to move to xbox and ps2) Final Fantasy Series Grand Theft Auto III (yaaaaa!) Driver Series (love that game) much much more! Xbox: DOA3 (big whoop) Halo Series (soon to pt 2!) GTAIII (comin out like in 5 months, whose gonna wait that long!?) That all i can think of......... GC: Mario Series Zelda Series Metroid Series Super Smash Bros Donky Kong Series All kiddie games Scores: Ps2- 9 GC-6 Xbox-3 Jus felt like gradin.........lol |
May 30th, 2002, 12:30 AM | #9 | |
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Anyways, Xbox is far from dying. It seems people here and concerned that the software lineup is weak and that there are no exclusive titles. Far be it from the truth, here are some awesome exclusives that I own and ones I am looking forward to: Halo (duh) Amped Snowboarding Hunter: The Reconing Rallisport Challenge Project Gotham Racing Crash Bandicoot: Wrath of the Vortex and plenty of things to come: Blinx (lots of great things are being said about this game[/i]) *Morrowind (this ones iffy... at least to me) Ninja Gaiden (oh my god this game made me drool) Brute Force Halo 2 (announced to be online for xbox live) amped 2 (same as halo 2) project gotham w (same as halo 2) *Shenume 2 (exclusive in the states, if you don't count DC...) WWE Raw 2 NFL Fever 2003 (online) *Star Wars: KOTOR (exclusive for xbox and pc; online) Toe Jam and earl 3 DOA Volleyball Fable (was project ego before) These are just ones off the top of my head. the ones with *'s are ones that can prolly be considered 'non-exclusive'. Now Im sure after hitting the post button everyone will say 'oh, those games don't interest me'. well thats fine, you don't have a box anyways if you are saying that. But just because most of the people here chose to buy a PS2 and not a box doesn't mean the box is doomed to failure. There are not even 400 people in this forum, not what I would call a 'huge demographic' Also I am not saying that PS2 has no games, I wish I could get my hands on Shinobi and SOCON... Guess I will just have to buy a ps2, play a friends or do without when the time comes. Oh, and I don't think DOA3 is a must have game. Pretty? Yes. Fun? Could be better... The box community is waiting for Soul Caliber 2 like pretty much the rest of the gaming community. Pimp_Daddy is totally right though, the microsoft machine wont let this die. Few seem to grasp their master plan, but here it is: to take over your house. No joke. They are in the computer room, next aquisition is the living room. And the xbox is the key. Do you realize that microsoft just announced there is going to be an accessory that links your box up to your pc from the living room and lets you play mpgs, mp3s and any other sort of multimedia file through your home entertainment center? I think thats tight as hell, and yet another selling point for the box. I'll definately pick it up. Xbox isn't going to kill Playstation and microsoft knows it, but MS is going to fight to the death to keep the box in peoples living rooms and if we've learned one thing about bill gates, its definately that he gets his way...
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May 30th, 2002, 05:03 AM | #10 |
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Swim, definitely! And for all the reasons you've posted in here!
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May 30th, 2002, 05:09 AM | #11 |
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Playstation 2 All the way
I think that it will sink like a tonne of Bricks
X-Box But hey what do i know! Lol |
May 30th, 2002, 05:41 AM | #12 |
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Definitely SWIM
They have tons of money, and it doesn't matter how much they lose..... also, they have some great exclusives no matter what some people say.
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May 30th, 2002, 07:22 AM | #13 |
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The system will easily swim.Like mentioned above its got quite a big lineup of titles coming up and the money to keep it afloat.If it stays around it could establish itself as one of the bigger console brands around
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May 30th, 2002, 08:05 AM | #14 | |
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Re: Playstation 2 All the way
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May 30th, 2002, 08:11 AM | #15 |
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What the!
Return to castle wolf and doom3 for xbox?? Has the world gone mad???? Yeesh!!!
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May 30th, 2002, 08:46 AM | #16 | |
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Re: What the!
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May 30th, 2002, 10:56 AM | #17 |
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Unfortunately....
I think it will swim... doggie paddle, at least. Much as I hate to admit it (I am still not going to get an Xbox. Games I want does not mean I still do not condone thier ****ty marketing practices..) there are some interesting games that are slated to come out to the Box. Namely Project Ego. If this game does all the cool stuff it is promising, I think it will be a breakout title like FFVII was for the origional Playstation. If it does turn out to be a breakaway title then we will probably see the major "battles" in the console war being fought between Microsoft and Sony. I believe that the Playstation, with it's larger number of developers (microsoft has a lot, but not even close to Sony..) will still rule supreme in the industry at least for this and the next generation of consoles, but Microsoft will be a major player.
Of course, if Project Ego turns out to suck, and all the stuff that was "promised" does not deliver.. then that might be the nail in Microsoft's coffin. It all depends on the actual quality of future titles. (Duh. ) And Kraft... don't mind Andi.. he's the angry guy that goes around kicking people in the shins. Question, though.. How did Hotshot post on this thread?
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May 30th, 2002, 11:17 AM | #18 |
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I think hotshot posted before bannage occured. As for the 3rd party developers, how do you figure sony has more than microsoft? Here are the people developing for microsoft now:
actually, I just realized that 257 developers is a lot to list. You can see the list and see what games they are developing at https://www.xboxaddict.com/xboxinfo/developers/ if you can point me to a page that shows sony has way more support I'd much appreciate it!
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May 30th, 2002, 11:36 AM | #19 |
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Don't have a link readily availiable, but I'll find one for ya. ^_^ (257.. okay, maybe closer than I thought. Still not topping Sony, though. )
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May 30th, 2002, 11:41 AM | #20 |
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Hmm, I don't know how reliable this ps2 site is for their information but here is a list of developers for the ps2:
https://www.ps2world.com/info/developers/ they list 20... this doesn't sound right, but I can't find another site yet...
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