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[linkkiller31]

I think any rap boy bands

[Pu the Owl]

There are so many bad songs around, that I find impossible to pick only one. Actually, there are more "worst songs" than "best songs" around. Most of average commercial pop music is crap. To not mention all those fake rappers and punk kids. Ah, don't make me think about it, my head hurts

[Vicious_2003]

You're all pretty short sighted as to why rap as a musical form is so successful today. you need to work forward from the sugarhill gang and then look at the political reasons behind rap.

Im going to have to disagree with EVERYTHING you just said. Well almost everything. Sure raps roots are filled with political strife expressed though its music. But what is rap lately ? Are you telling me thier are serious political issues being discussed in mainstream rap today ? I guess a "Bitch" shaking her ass on "da" dance floor is an issue now. Im sure John Karry's going to make "Gettin Crunked" a major ticket in his campaign. Are thier a couple rap songs lately that do deal with serious issues ? Sure. But they are very few and far between

As for Creed...Ill have to agree with Palazzo . Creed payed thier dues as much as any band and have sence put out some VERY good music. Maybe not Metallica..theyre washed up and get 0 love from me anymore.

[Nelo Angelo]

Originally posted by beserker

Anything by Britney Smears, Christina Aguilira etc.
Superficial crap!

Ugh, thanks for reminding me of Christina and that Chop Suey remix..........

HBFDOVNREJIVNRERE43T8Y743540689754Y67'FVMBEDKOBNM
x2

That is the WORSE SONG EVER

[Vicious_2003]

Christina and that Chop Suey

Aguilara did a remix of Chop Suey !? Are you kidding me !?. Please....please tell me your joking !

[trunks69420]

Originally posted by Vicious_2003

Aguilara did a remix of Chop Suey !? Are you kidding me !?. Please....please tell me your joking !

I think it was avril lavinge or however you spell that dumb womans name... But either is no good IMO so ah well.. heres to the progression of shitty music!

[Faile]

Any band (Creed) that puts a sticker on their cd's with "biggest band in america" is asking for trouble. Both those bands I listed are commercial MOR. Innovative music ? Kelis - Milkshake. Thats innovative. Fuck tha police by the NWA, again innovative. Hip Hop, R&B whatever. Just because these songs aren't from the same culture as myself and (I suspect) the majority of you doesn't make them any less astounding or any less hard working.

Just my opinion mind. You're welcome to yours too.
And don't think prepackaged pop doesn't sicken me, because it truely does. Just commercial rock, the same as any image seeking music, has the same effect on me.

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Originally posted by Faile

Any band (Creed) that puts a sticker on their cd's with "biggest band in america" is asking for trouble. Both those bands I listed are commercial MOR. Innovative music ? Kelis - Milkshake. Thats innovative. Fuck tha police by the NWA, again innovative. Hip Hop, R&B whatever. Just because these songs aren't from the same culture as myself and (I suspect) the majority of you doesn't make them any less astounding or any less hard working.

Just my opinion mind. You're welcome to yours too.
And don't think prepackaged pop doesn't sicken me, because it truely does. Just commercial rock, the same as any image seeking music, has the same effect on me.

Look at this way faile. Creed continues to write great songs and they work hard to do it. Thats what sells. You have to write music that grabs the person. All these other bands maybe good, but if they can't right a hit song to keep them alive they don't really belong in the business. The thing is Creed has never disappointed. On every CD they wrote countless technical and huge power ballads that most bands can't touch so they copy. You notice a lot of clones are arriving because of Creed. They are the revolutionary band that brought that sound out.

[Faile]

But looking at it like that I can say something like -

Random Pop Band = Lots of Sales.
Creed = Lots of Sales.



Both are forms of music I find equally as sterile so where is the difference to me. Soft Metal and Van Halen like guitar solos are evil. As are the clone bands.

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Yeah I don't know if you were comparing Creed to van halen but sorry Mark Tremonti can blow that ass outta the water as well as many other aspiring guitarist. You think you know speed, then you haven't seen this guy shred. Don't compare them to anyone there on there own damn level. And of course Creed is going to sell a lot of albums espically with the high caliber music they put on along with there fantastic live shows.

[linkkiller31]

I also think country sucks all of it.

[Vicious_2003]

Kelis - Milkshake. Thats innovative

Ahem...Innovative ? Are you shitting me ?. A song about your ass making guys horny is "Innovative". She's no more than a black Brittanie spears in my eyes. I file that under pre packaged pop music. Didnt you say you hate that too ?

Just my opinion mind. You're welcome to yours too.

Yup

[Rei]

Originally posted by Faile

Any band (Creed) that puts a sticker on their cd's with "biggest band in america" is asking for trouble. Both those bands I listed are commercial MOR.

That bothers me too (not referring to any band in particular, but to many different cases). But in some cases, even if the music sucks, you must consider it's not them who put that stck on the CD so it's not completely their fault

Advertising a pruduct means losing the sense of reality, very often

[Vicious_2003]

That bothers me too (not referring to any band in particular, but to many different cases). But in some cases, even if the music sucks, you must consider it's not them who put that stck on the CD so it's not completely their fault

Yeah, thats up to the marketing people they hire. So I wouldnt put all the blame on the bands themselves. But im sure they would probably have the ultimate say on the matter. Or does the lebel control that...hmmm...anyone know ?

[Faile]

I can show you any number of articles in the music press where Kelis is also described as innovative. But it cannot change your mind.

And the sticker thing annoyed me because at some point the band have okayed the album cover and design. If they haven't then they are tools. Simple. And if they have then its pure ego, nothing less.
Its not even as though it was a quote from a review. It was a simple statement, based not on sales of previous material but from, in my eyes at least, ego alone. But its true, if it can sell a product than reality often slips.

And please, don't be criticising me personally for what I write.

[Vicious_2003]

I can show you any number of articles in the music press where Kelis is also described as innovative

I could show you articles people have written claiming that Big Foot exists. Doesent mean a thing

And please, don't be criticising me personally for what I write

Wouldnt dream of it

[Faile]

Aha, we all know Sasquatch exists ! He played drums for tenacious d for a while !

[Vicious_2003]

Ahhh..I almost forgot, so that wasnt the best example then

[Uchiha Sasuke]

Whats this when you talk about stickers about "Biggest Band In America" and Creed. They never did anything like that. And this Kelis, I can come up with better stuff than that. Its not innovative at all. And again don't associate Creed with having an ego or being sellouts. Read there success story, they've worked freakin hard to get where they are.

[merylsilverburg]

Uh, well I'm not exactly a music expert or anything so I shouldn't really open my mouth but from the discussion going on about worst songs or worst music, don't you guys think it's really up to the listener? I mean, sure, there a majority of agreements on certain bad music (like pop) and all that, but there's also some people out there who say that the mainstream pop music is great. So, what I'm trying to say is (not offending anyone, mind you), what makes everyone on here "music experts"? I mean, Faile says Creed isn't innovative and Il Palazzo says they are. But, who's to say who's right? Ahh...let me try to make myself more clear:
Let's say, you listen to punk music...and you think that's the best kind of music in the world...so when you're presented with pop music, of course you're going to say "Oh, that's the worst song/music ever!", but what if that pop song really isn't so bad? Can you really say "That's a terrible song" just because you're not into that type of music?
Another example, some people say "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" from The Darkness is a terrible song...while some say it's wonderful...but who's really right in this? How can people argue about which song rules over the other when everyone has different likes and dislikes?
So, what I'm trying to say in the end is that there really shouldn't be arguments about which band creates the best music and which doesn't because everyone has different tastes. I like J-Rock/J-Pop and can say that that's the best type of music or that the bands I listen to come up with really creative stuff, while others can say that J-Rock/J-Pop is full of crap and really obnoxious music. But in the end, it won't matter since it's up to the listener.