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Mar 11th, 2004, 06:20 PM | #21 |
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i finally got the game, and i agree with both of you the game is excellent.
but did you guys notice some of the characters seems to have lost their accent, naomi, nastasha, and mei ling. i guess it make sense for mei ling since she was born and raise here in the U.S. but the other two ? why ? why ? why ?
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Well, my impressions of the game is very different from all 3 of you who said it's great. I would say I'd give it an 7 or 8 out of 10 because I really am picky about certain things so a lot of the new elements in the game just doesn't make me satisfied. Pros: Graphics are fantastic, I must admit. It is very crisp and clear and made things (objects, people, doors, etc.) a lot easier to see. The weather effects like the wind and snow, snow on the ground, oil spills, footprints are very nice. There's no complaints here. The briefing was re-done and are pretty interesting to watch now, unlike the original game where it mostly consists of still drawings with a few changes depending on the response and expression. Some of the new things, like hanging off the ledges or collecting dog tags (which I forgot about, so I'm going to have to play the beginning again ), were really a welcome change especially since the game is somewhat more difficult with the advanced enemy A.I.. Man, I was surprised to run by the guard and get spotted right away...wasn't like that in the original game and it gave me a heart attack. Cons: Voices. Okay sure, the voices being redone might be okay to those new to the game, but for those who've played the original and LIKED the original voices...I must say it's pretty disappointing. Not only that, but since David Hayter came back to do the voice for Snake in "Twin Snakes", his voice is more closer to that of "MGS2"'s Snake. In the original MGS, his voice, while gruff, was still pretty youthful sounding at the same time. Now in "Twin Snakes", I feel his voice is way too much like "the older Snake" and so I feel like I should expect to see Snake from MGS2 all decked out with mullet and 5 o' clock shadow and everything. And Naomi isn't Naomi and Mei Ling isn't Mei Ling, etc. How irritating...I guess Sniper Wolf won't be from Russia anymore. The cutscenes are really well done...very cinematic and all, but it's kind of flashy...it seems that there are more cutscenes or extra being added to the original. Like in the original MGS, when Snake got off the elevator in the beginning...he just ran over to the large crate and contacted Campbell. In "Twin Snakes", there's all that flashy footage of Snake taking off his diving gear, then Liquid preparing to get on the chopper, then back to Snake and then back to Liquid...yes, we all get the idea that these two are rivals...there's no need to "overdo" it. Speaking of "flashy", it brings me to the music. What's up with the rock and roll music when Snake got on the elevator making his way up and the title came on? It's sounds so upbeat and more action-adventure than espionage and haunting. I haven't gotten into the game farther to see more about the music, but that kinda disturbed me. The controls kinda bugged me...this isn't so bad, but it was kinda a bother to push Start + A to use the Codec. Yeah, I'm lazy, but I just found it more convenient to use the Select button, as on the PlayStation's controllers. Ah, but it's really just a matter of getting used to, so I hope I get used to it soon. Can't Decide: I can't decide which one I prefer: lower Life gauge and easier enemy A.I. which gradually builds up or higher Life gauge and higher enemy A.I. While playing "Twin Snakes" and got spotted by the guard, I got shot at and I realized the Life gauge was so long...I went and played MGS and I found the Life gauge was smaller and much more difficult to escape while being shot at. Ah, well...I don't know which one is better but I don't have any gripes about it. Yeah, so I would give the game, as I said before, a 7 or 8 but most likely an 8 out of 10. I don't know why it bothers me so much...I think the gameplay is fine and the graphics beautiful, but what probably turned me off is the voices and the "flashy" parts. Augh, the voices are what makes this storyline so believable and so intriguing, next to the actual story itself, but I guess it's just me. Anyway, that's all.
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Mar 12th, 2004, 07:59 AM | #23 |
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Yeah Meryl you make some interesting points but I see them as almost a correction.
First off I think they might of did a better job on the new dialouge. There seems to be more feeling behind some of the parts. Admitted it is wierd to see Mei Ling and Nastasha without there accents, but I think the correction was for the better. If you think why would a US military advisor be Russian in the first place, I think its better to make it more believable that she works for our government. And for some reason I don't mind the drop of Mei Lings whats so ever. I think I was almost annoyed by the last one. Plus the older snake voice sounds better truthfully. Considering he is spose to be mid thirties it does work better overall. Oh yeah and Sniper Wolf still holds the accent. Now the life bar thing I kinda disagree on considering how much health you lose after getting shot or wounded. If this was like the original, a higher difficulty level would cause you to be dead in one shot if you used the last games life guage. The switch for a longer one was for the better. On to the flashy statment, yeah the game if flashy, but MGS is spose to be flashy. I believe this is what konami wanted with the original but couldnt express it due to the hardware limitations. Its a true work of art. Now for the controls I kinda agree, mainly due to the completely digital control instead of analog. Everytime I think the GC controller is pressure sensitive I am poorly mistaken. I would be walking around with gun drawn then try to put it down by slowly releasing the A button when it would go off. Man that got me caught. I can't say that it is something completely bad but its takes a lot of getting used to, knowing that you have to hit another button to get you gun down. Anyways, I stand by what I said before. Great game, perfect in my eyes. MY NEW FAVORITE
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Mar 12th, 2004, 11:29 AM | #24 | |
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Anyway, A review I read raised an interesting point: by doing the "overdone" action sequences (which look amazing), the fights which they introduce (eg. Snake Vs Ninja) turn out to be a real anti-climax because the actual battle remains relatively unchanged. Anyone who has played it inclined to agree?
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Mar 12th, 2004, 01:23 PM | #25 |
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MGS2 was the same way. The cut scenes out-do the gameplay in regards to what Snake can and can't do. I personally don't have a problem with it, but to some it might be.
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Mar 12th, 2004, 04:42 PM | #26 | |
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Mar 13th, 2004, 03:02 AM | #29 | |
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just finished the game, what an awesome exprerience, this game definately deserves a 10, IMO.
heres my mission record (post yours aswell after you guys finish it) Quote:
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Mar 13th, 2004, 06:33 PM | #30 | |
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One more thing I didn't like was that the development team didn't add new things in the game. Like.....new rooms or extra stuff........ they should have. Seriously. AND they didn't play "The Best Is Yet To Come" at places it was played in the Original........ I WAS PRETTY PISSED ABOUT THAT!.! DAMN. Thats why I'd give it a 9.4/10, instead of 9.8/10. I love TWIN SNAKES. Its an awesome game, and the best GAMECUBE game yet. In my opinion. I finished it in 9 hours 52 minutes, I know its nothing great and all but still... but have already started playing again. Every GAMECUBE owner should HAVE THIS GAME. Seriously.
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Anyway, I also finished the game but I stupidly forgot to write down the website to input my clearance code. Does anyone know it? I got the Leopard rank...not so hot, I know. -_-;;; Also, has anyone noticed how easy the game is? I played it on Normal difficulty, the same as I did with the PS1 years ago, and I just breezed through "Twin Snakes". I had such a tough time with the PS1...but "Twin Snakes" was so easy. A lot of the boss battles seemed easier too...like the Ninja and Snake fight? Do you guys remember that the Ninja came towards you, in stealth, attacking with his sword? Well, in "Twin Snakes", all I did was just run up and punch him and we just did hand-to-hand combat all the way. It was ridiculous! And the Metal Gear Rex fight at the end was actually easy too...when I first played the PS1 version I couldn't beat Rex at all...it was so bad that I stopped playing for 1/2 a year and then went back and beat him. Everything else was pretty simple too...now you can shoot the cameras and run by freely...you can use the FPS to shoot many things and a lot of objectives were simpler. Is it just me? Two more things: Has anyone here found the M9? I could've sworn I searched all over and I couldn't find it. and Does anyone know how to stick someone up from behind and move to the front while still pointing the gun at them? I don't think there is a button for that and as a result, I only got 1 guard's dogtag. Thanks in advance. ^_^
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What they could have done for Twin Snakes though, is to have NEW stills... but then, perhaps no original Konami artists were available to draw them, what with it largerly being a Silicon Knights effort...
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Mar 15th, 2004, 04:07 AM | #33 |
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I've found out the website, here's my record for my first time playing:
CLEAR TIME 15:13:15 TOTAL DAMAGE 0.0 SHOTS FIRED MAX ALERT MODE 27 CLEARING ESCAPE 1 ENEMIES KILLED 90 MECH DESTRUCTION 45 CONTINUES 14 RATION USED MAX SAVES 41 VERSION USA RADAR TYPE2 USE OF SPECIAL ITEM NO GAME LEVEL NORMAL CLEARED 1 Here's my record for my second time: CLEAR TIME 08:01:45 TOTAL DAMAGE MAX SHOTS FIRED MAX ALERT MODE MAX CLEARING ESCAPE 0 ENEMIES KILLED 63 MECH DESTRUCTION 51 CONTINUES 3 RATIONS USED MAX SAVES 18 VERSION USA RADAR TYPE 2 USE OF SPECIAL ITEM YES GAME LEVEL NORMAL CLEARED 2 The second time around I used the bandana. I also found out where the M9 is...stupidly didn't see the lockers at the beginning of the level. I'm playing the game for the third time on Hard difficulty...I really like how Spoiler: show
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Mar 15th, 2004, 11:20 AM | #34 | |
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and i agree with you about the difficulty, its just too easy, specially the boss battles. but one thing that really pisses me off was i found out that the damn DOG TAGS doesnt unlock anything, wtf? i was kinda hoping that there was another playable character, maybe the ninja with his katana . so its kinda pointless now to collect all the dogtags.
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Mar 15th, 2004, 11:07 PM | #35 |
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forgot to add, meryl you can also put down your weapon by holding the Y button.
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That's too bad about the dogtags though. I was hoping that we could play as another character as well...maybe Meryl or like you said, the Ninja.
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Closing comments: I think this game is a kind of dissapointment. It only appeals to fanboys, people who have played the original, or Nintendo fans who have never had the chance to play MGS. Thumbs down. Oh and BTW, has anyone else noticed this: How many times did you actually use the new hanging feature. I can honestly say, I have never once hung on a ledge in the entire game. Another stupid/useless addition.
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Mar 18th, 2004, 10:56 AM | #39 |
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Yeah I'm one of those fanboys that loves this game to death. Admitted it has its flaws, but its far the greatest MGS expirence in my eyes. Two giant thumbs up.
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Apr 1st, 2004, 04:32 PM | #40 |
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I got this game about 4 days ago, I friggin love it I'd give it a damn 11/10 if it wasn't for the controller, although I finally got used to it, it's just tht nothing beats the PS2 controllers.
I'm very happy to see you are still meryl-chan, and this new people. Cheers.
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