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BowevelJoe · Apr 2nd, 2002, 07:06 PM

bleh i wish that i could help but alas i am illiterate in this great language although i can pretend...eh..right guys? hello? anybdy?!?!

TtTackler · Apr 4th, 2002, 01:59 PM

This is a great thread, since I've always wanted to learn Jap. myself *can't wait until college ^-^;*. Anywho, on Graal, the server Shaded Legend where I am GP, the co-owner Evil Poptart (great name =P) is very fluent in Japanese. He like writes out entire sentences but never translates it for us, even the little 2 word replies. Some of the stuff he did tell us mean seems a lil' different but pretty close. Maybe I'll post some of the stuff he says for some translation

Annnd, what else did I want to write...Oh yeah, can anyone recommend some good books that teach Japanese, I've tried looking around the internet a while back but that was a waste of time...

As for "shimatta", that's pretty funny that you mentioned that, because it became a big joke between my friends and I. We were watching the first ep. of Trigun at the Anime Club and the guy forgot to bring his gun so he yelled that out and the subtitle said,"Oh, sh*t!" Lol...anyways, keep the lessons coming Reid, I'm learning lots

merylsilverburg · Apr 4th, 2002, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by TtTackler
As for "shimatta", that's pretty funny that you mentioned that, because it became a big joke between my friends and I. We were watching the first ep. of Trigun at the Anime Club and the guy forgot to bring his gun so he yelled that out and the subtitle said,"Oh, sh*t!" Lol...anyways, keep the lessons coming Reid, I'm learning lots

Okay, now I'm totally confused. At first, I thought shimatta meant "damn" and I thought kuzo meant "sh*t". But now....it seems like....oh, I dunno! I'm so

Reid · Apr 4th, 2002, 06:04 PM

A lot of fansubbers interperet the actual words differently (how they think it would be more appropriate), so that might be why it's different.

If shimatta was used when forgetting something it's a pretty western concept to use s**t or d**n to express yourself, so it works either way.

merylsilverburg · Apr 4th, 2002, 06:48 PM

Hmm....that's true, Reid. But what about this? The anime, Fruits Basket.....there's this guy who always says "Kuzo nezumi". So.....does that mean, "Damn mouse" or "Sh*t mouse"? I mean, when I was reading the subtitles.....a lot of them read "Damn" but there's a couple of times when it read "Sh*t". So, I guess it goes either way, eh?

Reid · Apr 4th, 2002, 06:57 PM

I guess.

That's tricky.

To really understand this you'd probably need a better knowledge of the languages more complex workings than either of us has.

One of the hardest parts of learning a language is thinking that if it works in your language, then it does for the other (if that is worded well enough).

merylsilverburg · Apr 4th, 2002, 06:59 PM

Oh, I understand perfectly.

Thank you for your help, by the way.

TtTackler · Apr 5th, 2002, 12:35 PM

Heh, that's pretty funny. But this wasn't a fansub, it was Poineer or whichever company brought it to America, I forget. x-X; Anyway, it's not that surprising that it could mean more than one thing since thats the case in a lot of Japanese to American translation.

Cannibal Clown · Apr 7th, 2002, 01:15 PM

Actually, shimmata is what you would say if you messed up, like forgetting something, or stubbing your toe.

I think that's right.

But if you say that something tastes like sh*t, then you would use different words.

It takes a while to learn 'em all.

Pu the Owl · Apr 26th, 2002, 09:07 PM

I was wondering: does anybody knows where to get COMPLETE kanji fonts, or at least a software that allows you to use kanji with graphics programs like Photoshop?

I've tried NJStar and Kanjikit, but they suck for using kanji in graphics, they're only good for writing stuff like Microsoft Word documents, but with Japanese ideograms.

Reid · Apr 28th, 2002, 01:13 AM

I think you can find a way to change your keyboard so the letters make different kanji and hiragana, in Windows XP, kind of like a Japanese keyboard.

But, I don't actually know how, just one of my buddies uses it, so it's somewhere in the install files I guess.

Reid · Mar 21st, 2003, 08:44 PM

Hey, I was looking through really old forum topics and I found this from last year.

Would anyone be interested if I kept posting lessons?

I just sort of fell off putting them up and I could use a place to practice Japanese and pass it on if anyone would like that?

Gimme some feedback if anyone would be so obliged.

mark0™ · Mar 22nd, 2003, 06:27 AM

Wow I had no idea a thread like this existed thanks for pulling it forward Reid.

I Just bought Japanese For Dummies (Lol) And It's really good, its kinda like what you were posting before.

I'd like to contribute to this thread, hope there is others willing too.

merylsilverburg · Mar 22nd, 2003, 01:20 PM

mark0, Japanese for Dummies....I should get that.

But Reid, it'd be great if you could continue teaching us, your humble students.

Apr 2nd, 2002, 07:06 PM	#41
BowevelJoe ShakeandBakeMasta! Joined: Jan 2002 Location: The hole in the bottom of the sea Age: 38 Posts: 742	bleh i wish that i could help but alas i am illiterate in this great language although i can pretend...eh..right guys? hello? anybdy?!?! __________________ Blood brother of Cannibal Clown Menace to senior citezens friend of Richard Nixon Eater of Peenut butta!

Apr 7th, 2002, 01:15 PM	#49
Cannibal Clown Taijutsu Master Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Konoha Village Age: 38 Posts: 2,129	Actually, shimmata is what you would say if you messed up, like forgetting something, or stubbing your toe. I think that's right. But if you say that something tastes like sh*t, then you would use different words. It takes a while to learn 'em all. __________________ If you could see the future, would you try to change it? Would you keep trying... even if you knew you would always fail?

Mar 22nd, 2003, 01:20 PM	#54
merylsilverburg Enemy or Ally? Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,023	mark0, Japanese for Dummies....I should get that. But Reid, it'd be great if you could continue teaching us, your humble students. __________________ "You're a louse Roger Smith" ~ R. Dorothy Wayneright "Have a little priest" ~ Mrs. Lovett "Grim Reaper, you could not get the women? What was the problem? Didn't you reap them with your grim reaping equipment?" "I tried that but the women, they all know hopscotch" ~ Eddie Izzard You Can Help

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Apr 4th, 2002, 01:59 PM	#42
TtTackler ¤Web-Head¤ Joined: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Age: 37 Posts: 374	This is a great thread, since I've always wanted to learn Jap. myself can't wait until college ^-^;. Anywho, on Graal, the server Shaded Legend where I am GP, the co-owner Evil Poptart (great name =P) is very fluent in Japanese. He like writes out entire sentences but never translates it for us, even the little 2 word replies. Some of the stuff he did tell us mean seems a lil' different but pretty close. Maybe I'll post some of the stuff he says for some translation Annnd, what else did I want to write...Oh yeah, can anyone recommend some good books that teach Japanese, I've tried looking around the internet a while back but that was a waste of time... As for "shimatta", that's pretty funny that you mentioned that, because it became a big joke between my friends and I. We were watching the first ep. of Trigun at the Anime Club and the guy forgot to bring his gun so he yelled that out and the subtitle said,"Oh, sh*t!" Lol...anyways, keep the lessons coming Reid, I'm learning lots

Apr 4th, 2002, 06:04 PM	#44
Reid .red house. Joined: Jan 2002 Location: canada Age: 38 Posts: 797	A lot of fansubbers interperet the actual words differently (how they think it would be more appropriate), so that might be why it's different. If shimatta was used when forgetting something it's a pretty western concept to use st or dn to express yourself, so it works either way.

Apr 4th, 2002, 06:48 PM	#45
merylsilverburg Enemy or Ally? Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,023	Hmm....that's true, Reid. But what about this? The anime, Fruits Basket.....there's this guy who always says "Kuzo nezumi". So.....does that mean, "Damn mouse" or "Sht mouse"? I mean, when I was reading the subtitles.....a lot of them read "Damn" but there's a couple of times when it read "Sht". So, I guess it goes either way, eh?

Apr 4th, 2002, 06:57 PM	#46
Reid .red house. Joined: Jan 2002 Location: canada Age: 38 Posts: 797	I guess. That's tricky. To really understand this you'd probably need a better knowledge of the languages more complex workings than either of us has. One of the hardest parts of learning a language is thinking that if it works in your language, then it does for the other (if that is worded well enough).

Apr 4th, 2002, 06:59 PM	#47
merylsilverburg Enemy or Ally? Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,023	Oh, I understand perfectly. Thank you for your help, by the way.

Apr 5th, 2002, 12:35 PM	#48
TtTackler ¤Web-Head¤ Joined: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Age: 37 Posts: 374	Heh, that's pretty funny. But this wasn't a fansub, it was Poineer or whichever company brought it to America, I forget. x-X; Anyway, it's not that surprising that it could mean more than one thing since thats the case in a lot of Japanese to American translation.

Apr 26th, 2002, 09:07 PM	#50
Pu the Owl Useless Oracle™ Joined: Jan 2002 Location: Everywhere Posts: 5,136	I was wondering: does anybody knows where to get COMPLETE kanji fonts, or at least a software that allows you to use kanji with graphics programs like Photoshop? I've tried NJStar and Kanjikit, but they suck for using kanji in graphics, they're only good for writing stuff like Microsoft Word documents, but with Japanese ideograms.

Apr 28th, 2002, 01:13 AM	#51
Reid .red house. Joined: Jan 2002 Location: canada Age: 38 Posts: 797	I think you can find a way to change your keyboard so the letters make different kanji and hiragana, in Windows XP, kind of like a Japanese keyboard. But, I don't actually know how, just one of my buddies uses it, so it's somewhere in the install files I guess.

Mar 21st, 2003, 08:44 PM	#52
Reid .red house. Joined: Jan 2002 Location: canada Age: 38 Posts: 797	Hey, I was looking through really old forum topics and I found this from last year. Would anyone be interested if I kept posting lessons? I just sort of fell off putting them up and I could use a place to practice Japanese and pass it on if anyone would like that? Gimme some feedback if anyone would be so obliged.

Mar 22nd, 2003, 06:27 AM	#53
mark0™ Extinct. Joined: Nov 2002 Age: 37 Posts: 1,185	Wow I had no idea a thread like this existed thanks for pulling it forward Reid. I Just bought Japanese For Dummies (Lol) And It's really good, its kinda like what you were posting before. I'd like to contribute to this thread, hope there is others willing too.


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