That's been my question about online games also, Sleazy. I think there will be some games that're strictly online (FFXI) and most of the games such as Auto Modellista, SOCOM, and Red Faction 2 will be both... because the companies know that not too many people will be online with ps2 during the first releases.... I just can't wait to see the first videos of Auto Modellista, i bet the graphics will be sweet and smooth as hell