MGS3 theory
 

Snake is using Old weapons and Old Technology...

check this out..


Big Boss was in a Ranger Unit, Snaker Eater is a term used by Special Forces such as Rangers.

Now check out the end of the trailer..snake seems to be missing an eye.

digimortal
- :ahoy: It's Big Boss

https://www.angelfire.com/games4/mgs_...GS_bigboss.gif

Shit dude I think your right! Makg said something about the end of the trrailer saying 1960, 1961 etc. That would fit in... :)

Good Thinking Digi!

i had posted this theory in an earlier thread but deleted it. i decided to post it again.

yeah, and Big Boss will look like Snake, obviously because Snake is Big Bosses Clone.

This is so sweet! Big Boss was somewhat of an Enigma in MGS, this will be entertaining!

exactly, i think this is the mission where big boss loses his eye.

Wow I never even thought about that. I'm guessing that's right on though.

Yes...I must say that is the best theory I have heard. Considering Solid Snake wasn't born until the 70's it makes sense. And this right here taken from an interview with Hideo Kojima:

gamers .com (still a bad word :disturb:)

So if this takes place during the cold war it certainly takes place before the other Metal Gears.

Nice theory, you could may be right, im just trying to work it out, and this is the best solution anyone has come up with so far, nice one digi.;)
If you're right this means we play big boss?

Where will Metal Gear come in? Will there be a Metal Gear? Maybe this is just an opening mini-story like the Tanker Episode in MGS2... but It seems that the Jungle is the main Story... Ah I'll just have to wait to find out :(

Good question, I think metal gear came in for the first game of metal gear on the NES, was that set the the 80's? snake eater might be more concentrated on what happened before the events of metal gear and big boss and the clones.

Yeah but If the game is called Metal Gear, there should be a Metal Gear somewhere in some way or form. Maybe it's something to do with a Prototype M'Gear or plans? But a Bi-Ped Tank sounds too advanced for the 60's... Or Maybe Metal Gear will come into another Main Story. Maybe Solid Snake will have an Episode in The Jungle.

Ever thought It was wierd that Both Big Boss and Solidus Snake both lost an eye? :ahoy: lol.

Yeah, not to do the "we knew that" guy, but I must say that everybody here, at Ps2Fantasy.com, came out with this theory. We were all addicted to the original Metal Gear games - well, Carlito is a master in those games - and that's the first thing we thought.

I didn't notice that Snake seems to miss an eye in the trailer, but the "1960" date, the older weapons, the map-skin of the snake, immediately made us think of Big Boss. After all, if Solid looked exactly like Liquid, and if they both were clones of Big Boss... well Big Boss should look exactly like them. Doug Perry from IGN thought the character could be another clone of Big Boss, but that wouldn't make sense... a clone in the 60s?

On a note, it's evident Kojima wanted to give fans a lot of hints to make them think that the character in the game could be Big Boss... but are we sure this isn't another trick? Do you remember the genial trailers of Sons Of Liberty? They said everything and absolutely nothing at the same time, and god knows what Kojima has in mind this time.

By the way, in a couple of interviews he stressed the fact that the game will NOT take place entirely into the Jungle. It seems that the idea is giving the players the chance of playing the whole "infilitration process". Quoting from Ign's interview to Kojima:

"Again, the game doesn't consist of only playing in the jungle. Like if you get through the jungle, you'll get to buildings and when you get into the buildings, the gameplay will be similar to the previous games. The enemy AI in the jungle will be totally different. It will be acting on a totally different program, such as tracing footprints and all that, and it will be very interesting and fun."

So, it seems Kojima might have decided, once again, to not make of Solid the hero of the game... but we all know that things will be much different than what can imagine...

Ok, just to support Digi's theory, and to confirm that the game seems to really take place in the Sixties, we can say that the weapons in the game were used exactly in that period. The rifle in the screenshots is the perfect copy of a "classic" M-16.

https://www.ps2fantasy.com/archive/fo...gs3weapons.jpg

"By 1963 US Army was purchasing the M16 for use in South East Asia and by various elite forces. The Army also ordered 85,000 rifles in 1963. An additional 35,000 were ordered in 1964, 100,000 in 1965, and 100,000 in 1966. These rifles were initially issued primarily to combat troops in the Dominican Republic and to Special Forces, Airborne, helicopter crews, Air Commando and other special category troops in Vietnam." from https://www.globalsecurity.org/

The rifle was upgraded to the M-16 A1 in 1967 and in 1983 it was completely replaced by the M-16 A2. On a note, both these models are different from the one in the screenshots.

I'd be happy to find similar info about the equipment shown in the trailer, since Konami seems to give great attention to details, even if realism is not their #1 priority; we're putting together a preview of the game showing hints and details from the trailer that can support the "Big Boss" theory or others. If you notice anything unsual or relevant, please post here your ideas, and we'll use them in the article (of course together with a "special thanks to...")!

You're right harry, on th officail Metal Gear Solid 3 website, it say's the 60's.


Agreed, I dont want fans angry again like with mgs2.

Yes, the "60s"date is everywhere also in the trailer, but I just wanted to show that the trailer seems really to take place in that era. Personally, I don't know anything about weapons (and I'm not that interested in knowing anything about them) so as for me, just looking at the weapons, the game could have been set in the Eighties, the Seventies...

Maybe it goes back to big boss for some time and then they might link that to Snake presently. I was also thinking Maybe the Patriots thing links back to the Big Boss thing..

that first gen. M16,was one of the first things that got me thinking. In the short trailer that was released first it's being fired. There's one thing that confuses me though..and that's the heat vision/infared being used.