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Bogart

Apr 25th, 2003 06:31 PM

Would you import stuff from HK after SARS?

I was just asking myself if people used to import DVDs, merchandise, etc. from Japan, China, or Honk Kong, would import something in this moment, with SARS spreading around...

Pu the Owl

Apr 25th, 2003 08:59 PM

I don't know... Some imports shops don't sell anymore merchandising coming from China or Hong Kong, so getting stuff is also becoming more and more difficult for those who still want to buy.

I wanted a gloomy bear, but I suppose I'll have to wait to get one *sighs*

https://www.kokuun.net/images/gloomy.jpg

Isn't it beautiful? I'll try to find something else instead, like a real bear, for example...

Sleazy P Martini

Apr 26th, 2003 02:45 AM

My wife says they are offering nurses $100 an hour to come to Ontario to care for SARS patients. I guess some nurses up there have been walking out.

merylsilverburg

Apr 26th, 2003 05:24 AM

Okay, you know what? This is pissing me off and I'm sick and tired of hearing people say "Oh, Asians are bad, Asians are sick, the Asian stuff is crap" etc. Just because of this incident and everyone is against Asians.

To begin with, SARS is a mutant virus that could've been created anywhere. It only happened to be in Hong Kong and the people just came over to the US and spread it around. But they didn't realize that this was some new virus.

And I seriously doubt that by importing DVDs, goodies, or whatnot will cause you to get sick. But, it's not my place to say whether or not you should...it's your choice.

The only reason why I'm so angry is because lately, there has been some "anti-Asian" stuff going on in my town. My sister was sick a few weeks ago, not due to SARS but she just got a sore throat and that linked to a fever and then she was coughing. She goes into a store and she's standing in line behind two Americans. She coughs and they look behind at her and inch forward a little bit. Oh, they were trying to make it not obvious, but c'mon....she's not stupid.

At the restaurant where I work, many Asians come by and they're discussing stories about their incident with some people and the same things happen: they get weird looks, some people walk away quickly, people avoid them....

Ironically, if this virus was started in the US or something, it'll be totally acceptable and no one would say anything. :sarcasm:

This is not to say that I don't understand the fear of people....yeah, it is scary about SARS and there's no vaccine/treatment available at the moment....I'm scared to death. But the thing is, everyone is acting as if Asians are just disgusting now. I don't appreciate this because I do not enjoy having filthy looks at me whenever I go into a store.

Pu the Owl

Apr 26th, 2003 06:11 AM

I agree with most part of what meryl said in her post. Asian markets are ging to be affected by this whole question. Many people cancelled orders coming from Asian shops, many others are not going to buy stuff "Made in China" for the same reason.
This makes you wonder how comes that this time is China to suffer from all this, mainly... Asian products are sold all over the world and their prices are usually extremely low compared to the ones of Western products (we're speaking of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and similar, Japan is apparently not involved), and now, with SARS (aguess what? a modified virus), their economy will be somewhat damaged, at least for the present moment.. hmmm... hmmm... coincidences.

Vash	Apr 26th, 2003 08:18 AM

I wouldn't just to be 100% safe, but I don't think Asians are disgusting for it, nor is it there fault. Americans are going over there, catching it and the returning to America. That is how it is getting into the USA.

ssjtrunks13

Apr 26th, 2003 01:02 PM

I haven't imported stuff from anywhere but the news about SARS starting over there wouldn't keep me from doing it if I ever decided I wanted to.

ToxicUK

Apr 26th, 2003 02:34 PM

1 - Asians are really good people if you get to know them. If some Killer bug turns up there its not going to be deliberate - it just happened there so if people are gonna be racist at least dont make it the most obvious thing in the world - but I think its totally despicable. My workmates were making jokes about Asians yesterday and I walked out of the room in disgust.

2 - If everything is xhecked for the bug like through some scaner as they go through certain places then there would be no problem and I dont even have a problem in ordering from anywhere like that because the chances of actually catching SARS from a package is very low.

3 - There is some big idea that SARS came from outer space on a comet or something? Does anyone know if thats true or is there anything anyone can tell me about the origin of it because its kind of like my big question of the week.

merylsilverburg

Apr 26th, 2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Fortune

I agree with most part of what meryl said in her post. Asian markets are ging to be affected by this whole question. Many people cancelled orders coming from Asian shops, many others are not going to buy stuff "Made in China" for the same reason.
This makes you wonder how comes that this time is China to suffer from all this, mainly... Asian products are sold all over the world and their prices are usually extremely low compared to the ones of Western products (we're speaking of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and similar, Japan is apparently not involved), and now, with SARS (aguess what? a modified virus), their economy will be somewhat damaged, at least for the present moment.. hmmm... hmmm... coincidences.

Yes, now that you point it out Fortune, it does make sense a little. A modified virus...but why? Is it so that the people in the US will become frightened of importing stuff which causes American to produce more US made items to help the economy? If this is the case, then it's a dirty and low way of doing so. This will make me extremely angry...

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Originally posted by ToxicUK

1 - Asians are really good people if you get to know them. If some Killer bug turns up there its not going to be deliberate - it just happened there so if people are gonna be racist at least dont make it the most obvious thing in the world - but I think its totally despicable. My workmates were making jokes about Asians yesterday and I walked out of the room in disgust.

That's so nice, I'm happy to hear you did that. Not only are people making jokes about Asians, but at the restaurant where I work (it's a Chinese restaurant) not many Americans or Europeans are coming in anymore. People are trying to avoid Asian restaurants now, whether it's Thai food, Japanese food, Korean, or anything else. It's really bad for business and everyone's suffering from it.

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2 - If everything is xhecked for the bug like through some scaner as they go through certain places then there would be no problem and I dont even have a problem in ordering from anywhere like that because the chances of actually catching SARS from a package is very low.

Yes, I believe that too. This SARS is just more worse than a common cold...and colds are spread people to people, not packages or items or anything. But if people don't feel comfortable ordering or getting stuff from Asian countries, then that's fine, it's understandable. The sad thing is that people who don't believe that you can catch SARS from packages aren't able to order anymore goodies/CDs/DVDs from Asian countries for a while, like Fortune. And on Ebay, people are refusing to bid on stuff with the "Location" being in an Asian country. And I'm pretty sure that Asians living in the US won't be able to do the same, only because they're Asians. I want to sell an item on Ebay, but I'm afraid that people will back out once they learn that I'm an Asian seller. :shame:

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3 - There is some big idea that SARS came from outer space on a comet or something? Does anyone know if thats true or is there anything anyone can tell me about the origin of it because its kind of like my big question of the week.

Whoa, I never heard that before....outer space? Well, I don't know if anyone really knows the origin of SARS, but my dad read in Chinese newspapers that it did originate in Asia/Hong Kong. But then again, some say that it didn't and it only spread to Cantonese people who spread it around the US when they came over. And US papers say it originated in Asia. It's very complicated and no one knows for sure.

Suzuki_Fanboy

Apr 26th, 2003 11:24 PM

<---- Doesn't import bootleg copies of anime from China anyways.

Preventer Wind

Apr 28th, 2003 08:29 PM

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To begin with, SARS is a mutant virus that could've been created anywhere. It only happened to be in Hong Kong and the people just came over to the US and spread it around. But they didn't realize that this was some new virus.

Totally right, it could have started anywhere but China happened to be the first place multiple cases were found. I don't know if the US has had a victim because I haven't paid all that much attention to it. I know some people are afraid to fly and go to Canada now but I wouldn't have a problem traveling or importing anything though. Heck, if plane tickets have gone down a lot I wouldn't mind flying over to China.

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Originally posted by merylsilverburg
Yes, I believe that too. This SARS is just more worse than a common cold...and colds are spread people to people, not packages or items or anything. But if people don't feel comfortable ordering or getting stuff from Asian countries, then that's fine, it's understandable. The sad thing is that people who don't believe that you can catch SARS from packages aren't able to order anymore goodies/CDs/DVDs from Asian countries for a while, like Fortune. And on Ebay, people are refusing to bid on stuff with the "Location" being in an Asian country. And I'm pretty sure that Asians living in the US won't be able to do the same, only because they're Asians. I want to sell an item on Ebay, but I'm afraid that people will back out once they learn that I'm an Asian seller

I think the problem with it is that it has the highest known deathrate among discovered viruses (At least it was). Though there haven't been tons of cases it could slowly work up and up and up.

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My wife says they are offering nurses $100 an hour to come to Ontario to care for SARS patients. I guess some nurses up there have been walking out.

WOW! That's a lot of money. She could make $4,000.00 a week (normal shift work without taxes) and that's $208,000.00 a year! I would do it if I was a nurse.

I know that on Tuesday the Toronto Blue Jays are selling tickets for onlt $1.00. I guess some company bought all the tickets and are reselling them to get people to come to their games. Though their attendance has not slipped any since the outbreak.

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Originally posted by Fortune
This makes you wonder how comes that this time is China to suffer from all this, mainly... Asian products are sold all over the world and their prices are usually extremely low compared to the ones of Western products (we're speaking of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan and similar, Japan is apparently not involved), and now, with SARS (aguess what? a modified virus), their economy will be somewhat damaged, at least for the present moment.. hmmm... hmmm... coincidences.

I would rather not talk about any conspiracies....but it is possible. And it would be totally wrong if it was true. Maybe the US has a cure and they want to go in with it to show how humane they are and that they are the most advanced country in the world. Or maybe they want Americans to start buying more domestic things. Maybe it was an Iraqi attack? I don't believe in any of them...but it is still a possibility.

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Ironically, if this virus was started in the US or something, it'll be totally acceptable and no one would say anything.

True. The US does have a nasty problem with STDs...though not a lot of people realize this. But I think the US has had it's share of epidemics in the past and they were criticized.

ToxicUK

Apr 29th, 2003 02:59 PM

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IT MAKES ME REALLY ANGRY AS WELL - why would they do that?

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This is another thing thats also downright outrageous. I have an indian down the road and ive noticed that about 1/2 the people that used to be regulars dont turn up and I think why do they do that? Its just racist. and i waish i could do something to help.

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Oh man , does this totally suck? I mean for goodness sake - if everything was done right in the first place for preventive measures we wouldnt even have the problem...

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Hmm i never heard that stuff about spreading it to Cantonese people form Hong Kong. But my statement about the space thing hasnt been true it was just something I heard and thought thats why this whole thing could have happened?! But its a long shot anayways...

Hadoken

Apr 30th, 2003 07:04 AM

Asian Pride, meryl! <:)
I know what you mean about the people acting all paranoid about SARS. The store which my mother owns has seen a slight decrease in customers recently, but I honestly dont think that the majority of them have even thought about having a problem with imported goods. And hopefully that thought wont ever cross their mind's. But it seems everyone's talking about it in the asian community, and not to say SARS isnt a serious topic, because it is. I'm just getting a little tired of people speculating this and that and not even knowing the proper facts. And this goes for everyone, asian, american, whatever. They shouldnt be spreading rumors that they've heard and are not completely sure of, it just causes more people to spread crap around. I seriously hate it whenever someone thinks they know what's going on, and then tries to explain it to a group of people, when all their doing is just causing them to panic. I mean, damn, if their gonna explain something, they should at least know their facts. But you know what? I think i'm gonna walk around and pretend to cough, just to see what people do...;)

edit: btw guys, the little asian smiley doesnt work! It turns out like this <:)

ToxicUK

Apr 30th, 2003 01:26 PM

very true, SARS is a very important topic and I get what youre saying there.

merylsilverburg

May 1st, 2003 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Hadoken

Asian Pride, meryl! <:)
I know what you mean about the people acting all paranoid about SARS. The store which my mother owns has seen a slight decrease in customers recently, but I honestly dont think that the majority of them have even thought about having a problem with imported goods. And hopefully that thought wont ever cross their mind's. But it seems everyone's talking about it in the asian community, and not to say SARS isnt a serious topic, because it is. I'm just getting a little tired of people speculating this and that and not even knowing the proper facts. And this goes for everyone, asian, american, whatever. They shouldnt be spreading rumors that they've heard and are not completely sure of, it just causes more people to spread crap around. I seriously hate it whenever someone thinks they know what's going on, and then tries to explain it to a group of people, when all their doing is just causing them to panic. I mean, damn, if their gonna explain something, they should at least know their facts. But you know what? I think i'm gonna walk around and pretend to cough, just to see what people do...;)

edit: btw guys, the little asian smiley doesnt work! It turns out like this <:)

You're right. It's not just Americans who are spreading around stuff, it's also Asians. Like recently, this Asian professor stopped by the restaurant to warn my mother and sister about SARS and what they can do to prevent it. She was so completely unreasonable; telling us to wash our hands after handling every money, telling us to stand at least a foot away from a person who came back from Hong Kong...I mean, c'mon! Running a restaurant is frantic; we don't have time to "wash our hands" everytime after handling money! And what would people think if we did that? I mean, we're Asians too, so why do we have to make our own race feel inferior? It is an important topic and I know why people are afraid, but there's no reason to shut everyone out or forget about importing stuff just because of it. And I also heard that SARS is not likely to be spread anymore in the US now. So, that's some good news.

Suzuki_Fanboy

May 5th, 2003 02:26 PM

Only like 2% of the people who get SARS die from it. Or so they said on South Park :D

Preventer Wind

May 5th, 2003 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by Suzuki_Fanboy
Only like 2% of the people who get SARS die from it. Or so they said on South Park

Educational Progamming at it's finest ;)

I heard that it was like 35%..... but that was at the start of the outbreak.

Suzuki_Fanboy

May 5th, 2003 08:52 PM

Meh, I didn't believe it. I just wanted to make a reference to South Park ;)

"Hey, Brovlovski's a good cop!"

DSgamer

May 6th, 2003 12:01 AM

yo suzuki, i thought that only 2% of ppl w/ it died too. but i think its actually 35% (omg, a TV show lied!!)

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