Should I buy a Ps2 for $199 or GC?
 

I'm gonna graduate soon and i have been asked by my parents which system I wanted. I still cant decide!!! I look on the internet everyday to try to pursuay myself into gettin one, now i need some oppinions from actual ppl.

First i wanted GC cause the gfx looked awsome
Then I wanted Xbox for a long time (cause its microsoft)
Now I want Ps2 cause all my friends have it and theres many games on it I like

GTA3
MGS2
FF10

and the list goes on..........

Which should I get?????

Buy the system that supports the games you want to play. You could also rent the systems at Blockbuster to try them out for yourself.

Stick with the One & Only
SONY

PLAYSTATION 2 SONY :happy:

That will do him no good if he wants to play games that are exclusive to GC or Xbox.

A system's power is nothing without the games. I think that you should buy the PS2. It has the best games for it now and by the end of the year, there will be even more great games. Xbox and GC have a few good games out now, but there aren't nearly as many as the amount of great games out right now for the PS2. Gamecube has a few good games, (Resident Evil) but the PS2 wins over the Gamecube either way.

Thats a pretty biased opinion, with resident evil, wrestlemania x8, metroid prime and other great looking games coming out, gamecube might be a wise investment. In the same light, xbox has morrowind, hunter: the reconing, halo and many other great games out with other hot titles around the corner like brute force, blinx, tao feng, phantasy star online 2 and others. Personally I went first for the system that appealed to my needs. I love online gaming so Xbox was a no brainer. As soon as I scrape up enough extra cheese I'll most likely expand my video game system repotiore though!

As many said, don't look at the console power, but at the games you would like to play. All the three consoles are great, and all of them have much more than just a good game.

At present, my personal choice would be a Ps2 or a GameCube. Speaking of titles coming out during the next year, the Gamecube has so many amazing top quality titles that will never be released on other systems; on the other hand, the Ps2 has more games, and gives you the possibility to play titles like Metal Gear Solid series, Final Fantasy series, Gran Theft Auto etc.

Again, take a look at the list of games and choose the console that fits your needs.

your right unless you want a system thats going to turn like the dc buy the ps2 it has the best games.(by the way the system thats going to turn out like the dc is xbox:cool:

I don't think so... both the GC and the Xbox will be around for quite a long time on my opinion. The GC is selling a lot of units, and the Xbox is doing good after the price cut. Both consoles will show great stuff, even if at present I am more interested in the GC.

Get a job and buy them all. Don't buy GC first because the games suck right now... but this fall GC will be rockin. Xbox has a mediocore library right now. So I say buy PS2 first, and the other 2 depending on which has more games at the moment you buy 'em.

If you have a hankerin' for online play I would go for the xbox. Right now I play halo and tony hawk 3 online all the friggin time, it is so much fun!!

Halo on THPS3 are already online for Xbox????


But which systems will rule in 1 year, which will have the best games? thats what i need to know.........will ps2 still rule or will xbox take over?

Halo and THPS3 are online... sorta. There are programs out, namely gamespy and xbconnect that let you fool your xbox into thinking that other xbox's hooked up to the internet are actually on your LAN. Gaming is free and you can play people all across the world already!

As for who will rule in one year, anyones guess. My guess is that noone will rule. Each system is going to have some killer exclusives and is going to be pushing online play and the boundaries of their systems. Im sure no matter what system you buy, you won't be disappointed with it!

Kraft is right, my friend plays Halo online as well. And I agree, each system will have killer exclusives... so that's why everyone needs to buy them all!

exclusives---->

Xbox- Halo, Splinter Cell, Strident, Project Ego, Unreal Chaimpionship, etc.
GC- Zelda, Mario, Star Fox, Zelda, Metriod, SSBM, Pikmin, Zelda, etc.
PS2- FF, GTA, DMC, Tomb raider, Ico, Twisted Metal, etc.

My suggestion
 

Alright, you want advise? I just bought a PS2 (yesterday). I am extremely satisfied with my purchase.

I just joined this forum about a week ago to learn more about PS2 and found that it is the best. Mainly because it fits all my needs.
1. I wanted a system with affordable games. (PS2)

2. I wanted something that is portable, I plan on taking it on vacation(PS2/GC)

3. I wanted something with a great game selection (PS2)

4. I wanted something that could play DVD's (PS2/Xbox)

5. I wanted one that would look sweet.:D (PS2)

Clearly PS2 fit all my needs. I believe PS2 is THE BEST CONSOLE EVER!!! but what ever system you get I'm sure you will be happy.:happy:

-Of course if you buy a Xbox or GC you won't be as happy as me.:laugh: lol

Youre right.........all those reasons u gave out work for me too. I think i made my choice for my system.......

Ps2!!

Why, i have found out that many of my friends have them.....(many!!) this means i will be able to borrow, trade, whenever i get bored of my old ones. None have Xbox and only 2 have GC.

2nd, most of my all time fav games from ps1 are on there

MGS2
THPS3/and soon to be 4
FF10/11
Devil May Cry
Stuntman (love driver)

and much much more


While Xbox only has : Halo, Doom3, and many pc games that i can get for my computer

GC has nothing really except resident evil which i have conqured on Ps1 and DC

I should get my Ps2 in about 4 more days!!!!!! I'm really happy wit my decision

but wait, how do I know all these ps2 wonder games are gonna stay next year!? Does anyone know the ps2 line-up for next year and the years to come?

Also GC and Xbox too..........this is really important since Ps2 may hit rock bottom with their one hit wonders next year....

Heh, since you listed all your reasons for buying a ps2, I guess I will list all of my reasons for buying a gamecube:

1. I am looking for fast online play: All of the systems are offering online play, but only XBox is exclusive to broadband. Yeah, I realized a lot of people have modems, but if having less people online means i get no lag then so be it. Guess it will be for the 'hardcore' online gamer then

2. I am looking for a system with great fps games going online: Does PS2 even have a good fps? I know gamecube has metroid prime, though its not online. GC and PS2 will get splinter cell a half year after I get it. Anyways, I am going to have halo 2, brute force, splinter cell, unreal championship and counterstrike to keep me amused

3. I want a console with innovation and power so I know it won't burn out in a hurry: XBox all the way, statistically and in real life, only the gamecube can compete with it. Its pushed out 15 mps and so has the cube, all in the first half a year... I can't even think of a ps2 game thats done that. Also, built in hard drive is the coolest thing ever. I can rip songs and create my own soundtracks for games... brilliant idea

4. I want a system that is fun to play with friends: with 4 control ports and games with LAN capabilities. This makes for awesome lan parties if you want. People whine about it being a 'huge console'... Its 8 pounds. If you can't lift 8 pounds and put it in the backpack then you need to put the controller down and go to the gym.

5. I want a future lineup of games that appeals to me: Just off the top of my head, Halo 2, amped 2, brute force, Tao Feng, MK5, Blinx, Fable (was project ego), phantasy star online 2, tony hawk 4, toejam and earl 3, ninja gaiden, shenmue 2, crimson skies, medal of honor, star wars: kotor, unreal, nfl fever 2003, etc. etc.

6. I want a system that I know will survive: [i]Nintendo has been going downhill ever since they released the virtual boy. The N64 didn't do what they wanted it to. Gamecube seems to be faring a bit better though. Without a doubt nintendo is not near the force they used to be. I worry about sony because they seem to be losing a lot of exclusive titles, How did they let GTA3 slip to PC and XBox? And Metal gear? Crash bandicoot? Toejam and earl? Though they do have some exclusives now it is not near what it used to be. Im pretty sure when you size them up the XBox and GC have the most exclusive titles, PS coming in 2nd as of now.

Eh, these are some of the reasons I got a box. not saying a ps2 or a gc is a bad idea, just not what appealed to me. I also like fruity pebbles cereal and wear adidas if anyone cares about those name brands:cool:

I agree with kraft, just buy the system with the exclusives you want and need. I bought PS2 because of GTA3, GT3, RF, FF, TM Black and many more.

I have to admit I know near to nothing about Xbox games. But I just needed something I could play in the car. I also like the PS2 controllers better than Xbox. I can only say that Xbox has a weak number of games. But I can't judge the games that are out or coming out because I haven't been following Xbox.

I wouldn't buy a GC unless you are an undying fan of zelda and metroid because that's all GC got going for them.

Summary- Buy a PS2 and if you got enough money left, buy an Xbox when they actually got some games out. Stay away from GC unless you like kiddy games. "Nintendo has been going downhill ever since they released the virtual boy. The N64 didn't do what they wanted it to."

So far everyone has made great points. The key is getting what YOU want not what WE want. I'm sure if someone gave me an Xbox I'd quickly become a fan.

being the local xbox nut, I just wanted to point out that as far as weak selection goes, the box has 70+ games out right now (not sure on the exact number) and will have an unprecedented 200 titles out by christmas!!!! This is more than the ps2, 64 for any other console for that matter has ever released in their initial year. But yeah, compared to the ps2, there are a lot less titles for the box. A year and a half head start will do that for you though :)

for some reason I agree with you, you wont be dissappointed with any system, every person has a system they were meant to play and they were meant to own. I own a playstation2 because I love the cool games that come out for the ps2,I would name them but it would take really long but am sure every one knows which games am talking about, plus the ps2 has amazing graphics just not the best. How come some people say that xbox and gc has lots of better graphics than ps2 when gran turismo 3 graphics can make an xbox, and gc look weak. now all I am saying is that dont talk crap about the ps2 when it can make realistic graphics just like any other system.:phew:

Just FYI, people are saying the graphics are better due to superior hardware. And there have already been games to prove this. Rogue leader for GC and DOA3 for Xbox are both said to be pushing 15 million polys a second with amazing effects and anti-aliasing. GT3 pushes 8 if I remember right. Im not saying that GT is a beautiful game, it has great textures and looks wonderful, but it doesn't push through near the numbers that box and gc games do.

Also, industry analysts are predicting that the cube and xbox will both end up pushing about 32 mps games when it is said and done, but have capped the ps2 at around 24 mps in real life runs.

Of course the ps2 is 2years old it can't do 32mps but its still great hardware:cool:

Oh, im not arguing that it doesn't have great graphics. GT3:Aspec blew me away, as have many PS games. I was merely commenting on why people say the xbox has better graphics than the ps2.

oh ok
:cool:

KraftSLU, the PS2 DOES have an excellent FPS coming out soon, Timesplitters 2, and yes, it is an online game. As for games not being exclusive to the PS2, I think that only MGS2Substance will be the only Metal Gear game on any system besides the PS2, and all future GTA titles are going to be exclusive to the PS2. And Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, and other series will be exclusive to the PS2. Online games for the PS2 will also hold their own against it's competition. Resident Evil Online and Timeplitters 2 look to be excellent titles. I still think that the PS2 is the best way to go

i got ps2,gamecube and no xbox i wanted a xbox for so long but i did not have the money to get one cause it was 300$ dollors back then. but now with the price cut i will get one this upcomeing monday im so happy and no im not a fanboy.

Im sure u guyz are sayin that i should just listen to MY oppinion, not OTHERS. but lets be realistic, i have to decide on which system to actually get. i cant buy em all, i aint rich, i can barelly afford one. im askin u guys to try to pursuay me into a system and so far im already hooked on ps2. i love the games, and the online play really excites me. dont get me wrong, xbox and gc r cool too, but i aint got proof of that...........yet

thx;)

Alright, Im going to try and give as unbiased a gaming opinion as I can for all this... so here goes:

PS2

Pros:
Wonderful gaming library
Backwards compatibility to all your original PS games
Great 3rd party support
Built in DVD playback

Cons:
2 Controller ports
no Hard Drive (estimated to be 80 dollars for add-on)
no modem (estimated to be 40-50 dollars for add-on)
stats less impressive than gc or xbox

What I think: PS2 is a great choice of console to pick up. The day you buy it there are lots of great games that you can get with it and take home to play. Unfortunately those few games seem to swim in a sea of mediocre to crappy games when compared to other system lineups. Also, with less hardware there is the chance you will get less life out of your ps2, but there is also the chance that it will go on for a long time, just like the SNES did. The PS2 has, and will get more great games. Their online venture is kinda unsure at the moment, you will need a 50 dollar modem to even access the net... and the network they showed set up at e3 lagged so bad the game was unplayable. Severe embarrasment. Also, if you want to play rpgs that require a lot of save info (like the new FF) you will have to also buy an 80 dollar hard drive.

Gamecube:

Pros:

portable, great if you take your game system places
nintendo has a tradition of great gaming with familiar characters
advanced hardware design that beats out xbox hardware in areas

Cons:

Will always be seen as 'kiddy' and won't get as many adult titles as other consoles
People will argue that games are being rehashed to death
no harddrive or internet connection without addon

What I think: Nintendo realize they screwed up with the N64 and are out to redeem themselves with the cube. They had a wonderful E3 show and have people anticipating metroid prime, mario sunshine, starfox and zelda amongst other titles. Nintendo has a long line of gaming tradition and most likely won't let consumers down, whether they are looking for kid games or adult games. If you are looking to play dvd's you might want to avoid this, unless you are willing to shell out the big bucks to get the Panasonic Q.

XBox

Pros:
Advanced hardware, HD and ethernet included
DVD playback, but 30 dollar remote is required
In-game Dolby 5.1 encoding
MS is backing it up....

Cons:
DVD player costs money
ethernet port excludes people without broadband
some complain about standard controller

What I think: Xbox is arguabely the most technically advanced machine out right now, though GC is about equal due to extra texture pipelines and hardware lights. Xbox definately won't be beat in the sound department as it is capable of dolby 5.1 encoding *in game* which no other system can do. So if you are an audiophile, big + there! Xbox is probably the best geared up for online play as the ethernet and hd is included. No modem users is kinda crappy, but that keeps the system from lagging. Lag probably won't be much of a problem anyways as MS is investing 3 Billion dollars into the system. Of course, the XBox's main concern is RPGs... or the lack thereof. Morrowind is coming out soon, but that game is iffy... so XBoxers are left to wait for Project ego (slated 2003) and Star Wars: KOTOR (slated holiday season).

K, now that I've gone through all of that, here is why you should buy each system.

PS2: A definate if you want a large selection of games from action, to RPG, to whatever else you have in mind. Be wary of online play, as you have to buy the accessories, and it looks like each game is going to set up it's own server, which means if they decide to charge money, you will have to pay a charge for every game you want online. also, only 2 control ports means you have to buy an adapter if you want to play with 4 friends, so tack that on to the bill. I do find it rather ridiculous that a ps2 (200 bucks) plus the hard drive (80 bucks) plus the modem (40 bucks) will cost much more than an xbox with the same components (200 bucks)

GC: Buy this if you are a nintendo-junkie. Most of the blockbuster games you will see for this will star mario, link, pokemon, metriod, etc. etc. There will be other quality games out, like Res. Evil, but the focus will always be on the nintendo line up for sure. Also, GC has no DVD playback and has smaller disks so you can't play cds or anything on it.

XBox: Probably the biggest gamble. MS is looking to be in your living room and this is their tool. Most impressive as far as power and innovation are concerned. Ingame dolby is pheomenal, Hard drive was a wonderful idea, so was the ethernet port. Now that people have seen its power, developers are less cautious to jump on board. I think Xbox has the most chances of having a successful online launch also. MS is running all the servers and chargin a flat fee (50 bucks for a the service for a year, a free game and the voice communicator) and is dumping tons of money to ensure lag free game. As mentioned before, if you are huge into RPGs, this might not be your system.. at least not until Ego, KOTOR, Galaxies and some other games come out. Yeah, the box might be the biggest gamble as it is the new kid, but it has the potential for the biggest payoff.

Im not going to tell you what to do, but hopefully that helps a bit. If you make me tell you what to buy then I also want to tell you what clothes to where, what to eat for breakfast and who your friends are just for fun :)

you seem to put a lot of emphasis on online play. I'm not really into it. And the 2 controller port problem can be fixed with a multi tap, which doesn't cost very much. And people like myself do not care about a game's stats, all that matters in the long run is the games.

Gamecube is a nice system and has some good multiplayer and single player games but overall the ps2 has the developers, the ideas and the capability i like them both but i recommend a ps2.

Actually I empasized online play as a reason that you might want to look at an xbox. And I did also state that if you want the largest game selection that you should go ps2.

As for the multiplayer tap, yeah. It might not cost a whole lot, but it does suck to have to spend extra money on it. That was shortsighted on Sony's part, you have to admit...

u need a multitap for ps2!? i thought their was 4 ports!? that sucks

it only costs like 20$, the amount of controller ports on a system should not be THAT obsessed over. I am in no way saying that the XBox sucks, it's an impressive system and it has the potential to go far in the console gaming world, but PS2 is all of that and a bag of chips. I would recommend (sp) getting a ps2, even though it has a few minor shortcomings, it's strengths heavily outweigh it's weaknesses, making it my personal favorite next generation console

either way, all these next gen consoles have great gfx, better than what i got (ps1)

and which system is the multitap on!? PS2 OR XBOX?


Also, it seems if GC is out of the picture, so, what are the drawbacks of Xbox and Ps2???



(graduation in 3 more days)

Kraft made an unbiased post on the second page which included all 3 of the systems' pros and cons, read that, and then tell us what you're gonna get
and btw, the MultiTap is on the PS2

yes already read it


have to decide whether to get ps2 or xbox now

you kind of made the ps2 sound bad and expensive. You forgot the great games ps2 is going to have online like ff11, and txr and I heard gran thieft auto is going to be online. now xbox is going to have good games but nothing compared to the ps2 lineup. now even better games are coming out like xenosaga and legaia2. xbox lineup is not that good. sure they have good games like halo but nothing to impressive but if you like power and speed get an xbox.gc has sorryer games than xbox.what I am trying to say (every ps2 freak fan will agree with me) is that whats the use have having so much power but there isnt any good game to show it off on.:ghost:

PlayStation 2 is Less Expensive
 

You sayed you weren't rich. Same here. That's why I bought the PS2!

I don't know about you but I don't really care about online gaming so the modem and hardrive isn't a must. I also don't need four controller ports. The games I like are only one to two player anyways.

You said that you had a PS1? Well now you don't have two worry about buying another controller because PS1 controllers work on PS2!!! You also don't have to worry about trashing your old games either (not that you would). I am assuming you know that PS1 games work on PS2.
That alone will save you a wad of cash.

Xbox is still losing money from production costs, that is why there games and controllers are so expensive.

While PS2 has had time to pay their debts and give out great deals.

So if YOU want to have YOUR money and not Bill Gates, then I would buy a PS2.

That is my persuation. (Waiting for another one of Kraft's 3 page ramblings):laugh: lol

i dont care bout bill gates or online gaming either, i jus think xbox will be good cause all the money they got

as far as ps2, im gonna get one, i never play 4 players anyway, and xbox games are looking pretty weak. as far as the online gaming for the xbox, ill let my PC do that for me......lol