Things You Hate
 

And here's the counter to the other thread . . . .

What are elements of anime or manga that you absolutely despise?

I hate it when there's too much love incorporated into it and when a guy has a rose.

I also think about James from Pokemon. No offence, but I hate Tuxedo Mask.(I've only seen one episode and didn't care for it)

What's with the hating roses, thing? *slaps forehead* whatever.. anyway..

The only thing I think I'll EVER hate about anime, is when its dubbed into american (no not english! american!) and given bad voice-actors, the plot is changed from what it once was, and suddenly the gay lesbian couple, turn into cousins! gah I hate this country! Whens the next flight to Milasia?

Anyway... I'm getting fed up with anime becoming americanized.. its sickening when you find out what the censors are doing to our beloved shows!

And just for the record, Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon is my favorite anime of all time, and always will be! Zoicite is a MAN and is in love with Kunzite (Malachite)!, and Sailor Uranus and Neptune are GAY! They are NOT COUSINS! and Chibi Moon never calls Usagi (serena) "Momma!" .. and that's how I like it! lol!

Now that you point that out I understand what you are talking about, so even the DVDs over here have Uranu and Neptune as cousins or are they still they way they were in the Japanese version. ALso now that you point it out I do despise what the censors are doing.

It's not the roses it's the guys with the roses all the time you see them. Something just clicks and I get all mad at the sight of the guys with the roses.

Hero's who cant understand the Plot, no matter how obvious it is, until near the end of the story...

I don't think I've seen that in anything. I wouldn't mindthat though.

ROFLMAO! That's so very true! There's this one pretty cheesy anime called Samurai Shodown that I saw a few years back and the hero of the story was a real blockhead. I mean, he just couldn't understand anything going on....all he cared about was defeating his enemies and being "the strongest". He finally got what was happening near the end. :sarcasm:

Yes, I agree with that and also your comment about animes being "Americanized". Ranma 1/2 is also another good example, besides Bishoujo Senshi Sailormoon. I read somewhere that the Ranma series has been so completely Americanized, everything is just wrong. The English titles are not translated from the Japanese ones. The plots in certain episodes have been changed and the language as well. All that in order for it to relate to American audiences. That's quite sad.
I also can't stand when certain scenes are cut out from animes and on the DVD, they say "Uncut" when it's really not. A good example of this is the DB and DBZ series. CN has cut out so much stuff from the original episodes and on the so-called "Uncut" DVDs, there are still plenty of scenes which had been taken out. If you're a DB/DBZ fan, it's impossible to watch the pure and real uncut episodes unless you have lived in Japan at the time of its airing on TV. I read that because of the scene cutting, many episodes turned out unfunny and unexciting. Even the acclaimed DB series...as good as many say it is now, it's even better on the real uncut version. To be honest, I don't like this anime but I even feel sad that so much has been taken out.

Really? Even the DVDs with the japanese voices and subtitled?

I had no idea, it really is sad. But what can ya do about it.

Hmm, what i hate about anime,? Let me think...

first off, like said before, a quick beginning, without thought to how the story should progress. With the whole idea that the audience should get the entire story line in one or two episodes. This makes for a bad character introductions, and ruins the intensity you get as you slowly learn more and more about what's going to happen in the end.

I hate charatcers who are too predictable, along with story lines. When you know what's going to happen, with the fights, plots, charatcer development, and love and drama intertwines. I don't want it to be too out there, but still have fun twists and suprizes.

Voice overs can really annoy me at times, but usually i like it subbed, but when i'm tired, or at a friends house watching anime, i like the dubbing to be good, so i don't have to bother with all of that reading crap.

One of my biggest pet peeves in anime is inconsistant animation. Like seen in Outlaw Star, Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, and Hellsing. It drives me insaine.

The music, it has to be good, especially when the art and story is good. Sometimes the music can just ruin an awesome series, and sometimes help one out a lot.

Unlike what was metioned before, i love drama and strong emotional struggles in anime, usually referring to some sort of love story mixed in with the show. Gives the characters so much more feeling and intensity. And adds so much to the story. Can't go wrong. Like, imagine escaflowne without the love stuff in it? All it would be was a drawn out mecha battle.

Hey!! jk jk yeah your pretty right. all my friend's on anime just like to see people get shot in the like. this is what it's like.

Love stories suxxor!! killing people with sword's and pistol's! roxxor your boxxor's!
:laugh:
But i like a good old love story now and then. tenchi muyo is one of my favirote seris.

Thank you so much Seraph Sephiroth! I too can't stand american dubbing. Never mind that I am American. Arg! The dubbing of petshop of horrors just makes me want to chuck the DVD at the producers! Why beyond me, I actual listened to their horrid commentary! They actually whined about not be able to add the stuff they wanted! Stuff like changing a mourning (the poor guy lost his wife) character into one making jokes.

I also thank you for this. I knew I wasn't the only fan of the original Sailor Moon!
:phew:

I actually thought the voices for Petshop of Horrors was pretty good...as for accuracy to the original Japanese...I'm not too sure about that.

That...I did not see. I can't believe that...why-oh-why would they want to do that? How annoying...:disturb:

The voices are good? Good?! How could you say that! As hard as it is to believe with him being a dective and everything, Leon is only 24 years old! To be honest if I watched the thing blind folded I would have pictured Leon to in his late thirties with a heavy gut! His voice is so wrong for him!:frust:

Okay, here we go, if you don't have it already buy or rent pet shop of horrors on DVD. Go to the special features menu, they have a director's commentary, and put on delicous.




Honestly, the guy's voice doesn't sound nearly as sad or torn up as the japanese one. The english version has him just going like "Eh, so this is the pet huh?"

Although I will give the crew a little credit. They had said originally D was going be turned into a woman like Zoisite of Sailor Moon. Thankfully the crew protested that. I actually believe them because I forget which video I have that has this, but on the trailer to petshop of horrors it's a women't voice who is speaking D's famous line.

Also put on the english language but japanese subtitles. You can so many differences! In certain scenes it's liking watching another movie! Leon doesn't call D things like madam butterfly!

Also the kirin and the two men's conversations are completely different!

Sorry to rant so much, and for being a little harsh. I don't believe this is the worst dub ever but it defintley gets on my nerves. especailly when some of my friends who refuse to watch anime with subtiles or in Japanese want to watch it with me.

The only time I will hate love stuff in anime is if that's what the show is primarily about, I hate it when all there is is the love stuff and not much action going on. I would like to watch the Japanese-subtitled stuff if only I could get away from reading the words and watching what's going on and then watch it a cond time reading the dialogue.

I'd be cool with anything you said, meryl.

I, personally, can't see how you can stand listening to the subbed versions but that's just me. I want to sit back and soak it all up and not have to worry about reading. Though I don't know if I would prefer a bad dub over a sub.

I also like the series to have at least good visual quality. I mean I am *watching* something and I want to get the best vision I can of the characters and the surrounding.

And if the main character is too much of a pretty boy or too much of a blockhead or too dumb (You get my point) then I wont watch it.

Hey, that's cool, I can understand that. To be honest, I was like that before too. I used to like watching dubs because I was too lazy to read the subtitles...but then I started to watch some really awful dubbing and it just started to get to me. So, that's why I "converted". :laugh:

If the main character is visually a pretty boy, but is not so much so, then I don't have such a problem. But, if the guy is a real complete wuss or, like you said, a blockhead I would get really irritated. Or just any character that's dumb or ditzy. That's why I don't think I'll ever watch Love Hina or anything like that.

BTW, thanks ssjtrunks. :)

The main things I hate in anime are crappy plots, bad animation, and bad dubs.

Well, being the very ungirly person I am, I prefer the fast action, heart pounding, steel and blood kind of anime... Mobile Suit: Gundam Wing, Ninja Scroll...Ninja Scroll not so much. Angel Sanctuary, Galaxy Express 999, along with others. But love is one of the most interesting, and compelling aspects in any media work. But only if its done right. I am a big fan of SM, but the love in that is not the kind im talking about.

I mean the kind like in Angel Sanctuary. A deep, true emotional love, much stronger then the "Oh I love you!" "I love you to!" "Lets hug!" "Ok!".

Anyways, I'm all for love stories... Most of my guy friends are to, but they feel if they admit they do they will be called "Gay" by their peers.

And guys with roses are totally my thing!:ghost:

*high-fives Valkrie* Right on! Men with roses are sexy! SEXY AS HELL!!

Anyway.. I deffinatly a big fan of love stories in anime.. *swoons* Angel Sanctuary being one of my favs.

Men with roses. :p

Love story animes don't interest me.

Oh, and bad stories. >_>

No problem. I would never want to have anyone go through the sh*t I've been through. So, I try to be as nice as I can. I guess it's my mission in life.

Anyway, I just think that the 3 guys(that George guy in G Gundam, James in Pokemon, and the guy with the tuxedo in Sailor Moon) in anime I have seen with roses are kinda weird acting.

I just like the rose as a symbol. Beautiful, but deadly. Its a much better trade mark then a necklace or ring or something. Like the general treize in Gundam Wing is the best example of a rose carrier. Tuxedo mask...only good in japanese. In english I want to kick his pathetic ass.

Yeah I have to agree with Valkrie about Treize from Gundam Wing being the best "rose person".

It is my opinion that Sailor Moon is the worst anime next to Hamtaro (If Hamtaro is even an anime). And Tuxedo Mask was the worst character in sailor moon. The only thing I really like about Sailor Moon is when they changed into sailor scouts ;) But I have not seen the Japanese version so don't totally hate me...

Oh and Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho (or Ghost Rider I think) is pretty cool too.

I didn't know Treize had a rose. I guess I hadn't noticed because he was different than the others I mentioned.

Yep, he's got a rose. But I guess unlike some of the other guys you mentioned (especially Tuxedo Mask) he really doesn't throw it around.

If little "ham hams" running around is your idea of cute then all the power to you :laugh:

Well Zechs...Milliardo..Wind..Whatever! :P. The english version of sailor moon is not like the english version of other animes.

Sailor Moon was not censored. The plot itself was changed greatly. Why? Mostly because the japanese version dealt with serious issues, and the Senshi were all very independant, strong people... So the censors said '' Well... I know! Let's make them ditsy girls and have them obsess over boys and be like stereotype cheerleaders!" And then it changed over to "Lets turn it into an afterschool special!with happy friendship and joy joy joy!" Watch some japanese episodes. Trust me, it is a completly different show.














HOW THE HELL DID YOU NOT NOTICE TREIZE SAMA'S ROSE!? :shock:

Hopefully it is a much different show cause watching the English version reminds me of sitting next to some cheerleaders only they have special powers.

But even if it is much different I still don't like the idea of the series. But looks like I am going to have to download some episodes. Thanks to my high-speed connection I'll be able to do it in a day, hopefully.

You forgot lightning count in there :ghost:

"Lightning Baron...or should I call you, Lightning Count?"

Anyways, by watching the english eps, you dont know a thing about what the shows about..seriously!

Anyways I'd prefer to watch Angel Sanctuary then SM

Sorry for the random bumpage, but I had to get my piece in!

I agree 120% with sstrunks... Roses are not cool in any way, and Tuxedo Mask will meet me in Hell for punishment. (Yes in Hell, the lame anime characters are brought into reality and punished by the likes of me).

What else can I not stand? Male characters that have the chicks all over them, but act all cool about it. (Like Sasuke-kun from Naruto) "Oh (insert-random-name-here)! You are so hot!" - Some really cute chick, "Leave me alone, you filthy swine!" - (random-name-from-before)

Main characters that suck 90% of the anime until the last two episodes or something. That really bakes my noodle. How can someone be the main character if they never win? And whenever they do win, (usually by way of the most cheapest tactic in the world) they don't get acknowledged for it.

This happens also in Naruto, when No one noticed it! And acknowledgement was not given either!

Another thing I hate... I'm not a homophobe or anything but I don't like "questionably gay male characters". It's not because I don't like homosexuals, it's just that I don't like being confused about it. Like Subaru from X... Is he a fruit or isn't he? He lays down in a bed with a dude, without freaking out, he lights a cigarette for another dude while he's up close and personal, but he still gives off waves that he's straight, or at least, on a thin line.