The Saga Begins...

[Sword 4 Hire]

Xenosaga's finally arrived to our humble shores and I've picked my copy up, haven't gotten too far into it but so far looks like it has potential...anyone else buy it, if so what are your thoughts so far...?

[Preventer Wind]

I bought mine yesterday online from babages and got it next day aired. But alas... it has not come. Those dirty thieves....theys stoles it!

Though I am kinda glad because I still have to finish Dark Cloud 2.

[kupoartist]

i'm curious... has anyone heard anything whatsoever about this getting to Europe?

[XboxKiller]

I got it yesterday

I think its one of the best rpg's for the ps2

I love it:roll:

[Spank-A-Thon]

Originally posted by the_artist

i'm curious... has anyone heard anything whatsoever about this getting to Europe? Well Game (http://www.game.uk.com/search.asp?search_text=xenosaga) have a release date as March 2002. Of course, this may mean nothing...

- S

[Sword 4 Hire]

Originally posted by XboxKiller

I got it yesterday

I think its one of the best rpg's for the ps2

I love it:roll:

Well you must be a ways into it to make that claim already...

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Spank-A-Thon

Well Game (http://www.game.uk.com/search.asp?search_text=xenosaga) have a release date as March 2002. Of course, this may mean nothing...

- S

Game is my local store, but there release dates are not very accurate on the wesite like with tomb raider, November to Feb to Mrach to April NOW MAY!:frust:

[Spank-A-Thon]

Originally posted by dan da man

Game is my local store, but there release dates are not very accurate on the wesite like with tomb raider, November to Feb to Mrach to April NOW MAY!:frust: To be fair, I don't think you can blame Game for the ever-changing release date for Tomb Raider.... After all, Game usually only go on what info they've been given by their suppliers.

- S

[sk8er_kyle]

Is it out already in canada? Because i need to get some money if i wanna buy it. I only got 50 bucks. I still need some more money.

[Redpyramidhead]

Just bought XenoSaga, myself. Brand spankin' new...haven't even taken it out of the package yet...I'm almost afraid to cuz I know it's gonna be good...I know i have problems:roll: If i had extra money I would have got the strategy guide with it...man I hope I can fair without that thing...it was huge...

_RED_ stuff

[ssjtrunks13]

Originally posted by Redpyramidhead

I know i have problems:roll: If i had extra money I would have got the strategy guide with it...man I hope I can fair without that thing...it was huge...

_RED_ stuff

Sounds like it could be bigger than FFX's. Is it?

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Spank-A-Thon

To be fair, I don't think you can blame Game for the ever-changing release date for Tomb Raider.... After all, Game usually only go on what info they've been given by their suppliers.

- S


Yea, I should be mad with Eidos with a other few million people!

[Vicious]

I have to get this game. I heard that its cutscenes can be 40 minutes or more a piece, and you can save during them. I wish they had that option in MGS2.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Vicious

I wish they had that option in MGS2.


But none of mgs2 cut scenes are that long, anyway you should watch them all:D

[kupoartist]

the main concern many have about the game ^_^ (http://www.pluggedcomic.com/archive.php?date=20030202.jpg)

[XboxKiller]

I have 15 hours in the game

thats why am saying its that good.

[ssjtrunks13]

I think that comic is a little too harsh. At least there's supposed to be more gameplay than video, unless you can't skip the cinemas then it should be worth playing more than once.

[Sword 4 Hire]

Originally posted by XboxKiller

I have 15 hours in the game

thats why am saying its that good.

15 hrs. is nothing in an rpg, but eh it's your decision, I was just saying on the day of its release you had already claimed it to be the best rpg out there for the PS2, I say we give it that title once one of us has beatin it, but I don't doubt that it could be...

[Infernal Mass]

I'm about 5 hours into the game..

KOS-MOS is a badass.. can't wait to use her later on, nice graphics, the game is deffinately a rebirth of the sorta universe Xenogears had. Cutscenes aren't as painful as i thought they'd be either.

I had to stop right before going back to Shion quarters, because my Stereo started buggin' out do to my cat messing around with the wires. I'm taking my time on this one, it's gonna be a long ride i can already tell.

:cool:

[Redpyramidhead]

Shion's cute;) Why isn't she real?:frust: Well I don't have much to add since I just started it last night, but I will say a few things. First of all, I've gasped several times already. Second of all, a battle system in an rpg has never earned my liking this fast before and it's a blast. Third of all, the story runs very deep and stands before me like an ominous storm I would almost be afraid to enter (if I were a wimp:laugh:) It's like taking that first bite of a new favorite meal.

_RED_ stuff

[ssjtrunks13]

Is there anything in the game that would ruin Xenogears? I can't remember if it's been answered yet.

[dan da man]

Originally posted by ssjtrunks13

Is there anything in the game that would ruin Xenogears? I can't remember if it's been answered yet.


No, goodman said its nothing to do with the others.

[Sword 4 Hire]

Well actually there are events from Xenogears that show up in saga, but nothing huge, it would just be beneficial to have finished gears before this.

[Infernal Mass]

at the point where i'm at it seems there are some characters and terms similar to XG but nothing directly linking the two . Just a lot of Dejavu, it seems as if Takahashi put things in intentionally, but sort of added some new elements to them.

BTW the game has me hooked..it's alot better than FFX IMO. Kos-mos is a badass.

[Sword 4 Hire]

Originally posted by DigiMortal

Kos-mos is a badass.

Indeed

But don't forget Ziggy, he's a great character, seems real deep and is quite strong physically, and he's a mercenary so that always plays out well with me...I'm just not too fond of the name "Ziggy"

I don't know if I like it better than FFX yet, the story already has far out weighed FFX...but we'll just have to see, far too early to compare.

I'm not too fond of some of the character models, they look too plain and childish to me, and I'm not too fond of the whole space environment, I like my RPG's to take place in wooded areas, deserts, snow capped mountains, vast oceans...in other words on some sort of planet, so hopefully we'll be landing on one...other than that, I've gotten used to the battle system so far and the story is really lifting off...great game so far

[XboxKiller]

Originally posted by Sword 4 Hire

15 hrs. is nothing in an rpg, but eh it's your decision, I was just saying on the day of its release you had already claimed it to be the best rpg out there for the PS2, I say we give it that title once one of us has beatin it, but I don't doubt that it could be...



Now I have 30 hours. and stop making me feel stupid:laugh:

Its still the best

[Preventer Wind]

Originally posted by Redpyramidhead
Shion's cute Why isn't she real? Well I don't have much to add since I just started it last night, but I will say a few things. First of all, I've gasped several times already. Second of all, a battle system in an rpg has never earned my liking this fast before and it's a blast. Third of all, the story runs very deep and stands before me like an ominous storm I would almost be afraid to enter (if I were a wimp) It's like taking that first bite of a new favorite meal.


Shion isn't real? Do you mean Kos-Mos?

I think this game is much better then FFX so far but I really didn't like FFX outside of the sphere grid, LuLu :shock: and Blitzball. I've played Dark Cloud 2 for about 14 hours and I am no longer interested in playing it thanks to this game. The gnosis (check spelling) remind me of the bad creatures from Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. The battle system is great and the game is just hard enough where you can't just do the same move over and over until the battle is over. The cut scenes are great and you can skip them.

[Infernal Mass]

alright then, xenocard has me hooked.

Best damn card game i've ever played in an rpg. I have about 15 hours logged into the game...and haven't even made it back to the bridge of the elsa, after checking the ships catapult w/ Shion.

Minigames
+++++++

A) Drill game = teh suxx0rz

B) Mech battle = ...still undecided. Kinda fun, i need to upgrade before trying again. Maybe it'll be better then.

[DragonSphere]

You guys play pretty fast, eh? I just got mine on Monday and am still in the damn ship...about 4.5 hours. Liking it so far, but it hasn't gone quite up to that "addiction" level yet.

[Preventer Wind]

Originally posted by DragonSphere
You guys play pretty fast, eh? I just got mine on Monday and am still in the damn ship...about 4.5 hours. Liking it so far, but it hasn't gone quite up to that "addiction" level yet.


I'm only speaking for myself (Probably some others too) but some people just need to get out more :laugh: I admit it, and I am proud of it!

[ssjtrunks13]

I need to get out mroe too. I finally saw the commercial for the game and my mind is unchanged, maybe they'll remake Xenogears. It's just a thought.

[Beretta55]

I might buy this game today. this is my choice or command and conquer genral's. but i dont know which to pick.......aint that a pickle?

[dan da man]

Originally posted by Beretta55

I might buy this game today. this is my choice or command and conquer genral's. but i dont know which to pick.......aint that a pickle?



Yes, but ones a rpg and the others a strat, just depends, if you want online go with cc genrals.

[Redpyramidhead]

Originally posted by Preventer Wind

Shion isn't real? Do you mean Kos-Mos?



No, I meant Shion. Yes in the story she is a real person as opposed to Kos-Mos who is an android, but I meant that she is not a person in real life other than a character in a video game which is a shame cuz she's damn cute. Sorry about the confusion :cool:

_RED_ stuff

[Beretta55]

Originally posted by Redpyramidhead

No, I meant Shion. Yes in the story she is a real person as opposed to Kos-Mos who is an android, but I meant that she is not a person in real life other than a character in a video game which is a shame cuz she's damn cute. Sorry about the confusion :cool:

_RED_ stuff
Yes Shion is very cute my friend:laugh:
But i got this game today along with genral's. havent played genral's yet but so far in Xenosaga is damn cool. When i got this i didnt expect much or it would of been cool but i wouldnt really be crazy about it. Well i was wrong this game is awsome:D

[Preventer Wind]

Originally posted by Redpyramidhead

No, I meant Shion. Yes in the story she is a real person as opposed to Kos-Mos who is an android, but I meant that she is not a person in real life other than a character in a video game which is a shame cuz she's damn cute. Sorry about the confusion


Heh. Some times when you just get done playing a game for a while :roll: you actually think some of them are real :)

[kupoartist]

Originally posted by ssjtrunks13
maybe they'll remake Xenogears. It's just a thought.
I have heard it said that Gears is about the fifth episode (of more than 5), and that it would be remade (well, given the current pace of the saga being released, games will be about 4 generations on from now, so It would make a fair bit of sense.). Thats probably just speculation unless the head guy actually did say it...

[Hero]

Xenogears resembles what the fifth episode of the Xenosaga will be about.

It will involve Deus and the two beings that first started life on the planet where Xenogears took place

However, it will not be a direct remake, as Xenogears was firstly done by Squaresoft and the rights belong to them.

[Redpyramidhead]

Originally posted by Preventer Wind

Heh. Some times when you just get done playing a game for a while :roll: you actually think some of them are real :)

i know exactly what you mean. In fact I assume that they and their respective universes created in the games they're in are all real most of the time except maybe once a month I pinch myself and realize "oh yeah..." Does this mean I spend too much time with videogames? No, it just means I am lucky to have a gifted imagination. IN fact, contrary to popular and soon to become former belief, gamers are some of the most imaginative people around, as games are certainly no longer about just zapping aliens and resemble the engrossing experience of an intense book or movie.

Mindless people with blank meaningless stares at a screen we are not!!! :laugh: Oh how much of a joy it is to share this era with such great fellow gamers! Rejoice!
Oh yeah and Shion...*drool...* :roll:

Seriously, though...we are lucky to be gamers in these times;)

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[ssjtrunks13]

Wish I could say I have much of an imagination anymore, but I do play RPGs because they are imaginative.

[Hero]

Originally posted by Redpyramidhead
Mindless people with blank meaningless stares at a screen we are not!!! :laugh: Oh how much of a joy it is to share this era with such great fellow gamers! Rejoice!
_RED_ stuff

Okay... I'm gonna ask you to drop the controller and step away with your hands straight in the air.

Slowly, now... Don't make me do anything I want to... Uh I mean don't want to do...

j/k

Yeah I know what you mean. Some games are setting standards of living and innovation. There are some games that people take a little too serious... *cough*EVERQUESTTTTT!!!!*cough* Not to be specific or anything.

[Infernal Mass]

I was wondering were i had heard that before, in the game that little girl that looks like elly.. introduces herself as "nephilim".

They are basically half man/half angel.. they're supposed to be some in the new tomb raider game. Although they aren't going to look quite as friendly.

BTW i started over from the beginning..i had 30 hours in the game too. Reason why i started over...

the robot parts... i visited the Professor when i only had 2 parts.


DigiMortal
- XD

[Preventer Wind]

You did that too?! That totally sucks.... I didn't start over though...

[DragonSphere]

So there actually is....
A use for that robotic arm thing found on the Woglinde? I'm not as far as you guys yet though, just got "inside" the Cathedral Ship Gnosis. Are the other parts hard to come by?

[Infernal Mass]

the professor is located at the bottom floor of the A.G.W.S. shop in the Kukai foundation. Don't do what i did man. i got a weak ass summon because of my mistake. (a dumb ass big frisbee). This time around i'm only going to visit him after i find all the parts.

[Hero]

I'm gonna start playing it, but my friend said it's official, to him the game sucks. It went from rocking, to having long cut scenes that turned him off, to just straight out sucking in his opinion.

I kind of agree with that... Cutscenes and cg's are cool and all, but when you only get like 2 minutes of game time in between cutscenes, that's just wrong.

Like on the ship when you're supposed to deliver the commander his plate of food... After a REALLY long cutscene, you deliver his food, then there's another long cutscene.

[Infernal Mass]

Cutscenes and cg's are cool and all, but when you only get like 2 minutes of game time in between cutscenes, that's just wrong.

:laugh: it took me forever to find that Cherenkov. I went around exploring every part of the elsa before i found him..if i remember i even got in a some xenocard games. The best thing about rpgs is, you can basically play the game at any pace. Rushing thru to the end or to meet each new objective has never been the case for myself. In my view that's just a waste.. i could see if i rented the game or something like that. However, for me with RPG's i take my time.

It's always good to explore in Xenosaga..some of those emails are triggered by certain locations.

[Hero]

lol You don't understand. There is no "soaking" in Xenogears. They might as well have made it a movie. You don't get to explore that much, you can run around and linger and hear people say the same stuff. The sad reality is that deep inside after about 10 hours into the game, you're afraid to complete a new objective because you know there's going to be flashbacks and cutscenes and cg's.

The one thing i hate about Xenogears is when they say "Like that incident..." WHAT INCIDENT! WHAT!? TELL ME!!! THIS IS THE FIRST EPISODE!!! THIS IS WHERE ALL THE INCIDENTS HAPPEN!!!

[Hero]

Get some popcorn and a drink to go with it. Trust me on this one. I've played every RPG since Final Fantasy 6 on SNES. This is the worst amount of dead time in an RPG I've ever experienced. Especially for a one-DVD game.

Here's a tip... When you get the chance, FIGHT... Fight til your thumb hurts... Fight until every monster on the map is dead and gone to afterlife, because for one, there's so many cutscenes you don't even realize a boss fight has started, and then you're too weak and too low on supplies to even tickle him with an attack, and for two, it's so rare to get items in this game you have to fight and hope that items come up from dead monsters.

[Infernal Mass]

Originally posted by goodman

I think the game is gonna totally rock, myself, and its more than safe to say there is no hurry, just soak it all in and have a good time!!

yep. It's not hard at all to appreciate Xenosagas overall value.

[Preventer Wind]

Hero....geez...it's not that bad. Sure there are a lot of cutscenes but they are great. They are better then having to read for 10 minutes straight :roll:. There has only been one time where I wanted the cutscene to end and it wasn't that I was bored it was that I had to leave.

What boss fight did you find to be that difficult? The last one on the Woglinde was hard because nobody was that strong in your group. But that one was easy for me... As has every one after (I've died twice through out the whole game)

I find myself selling off a lot of items. At first you don't get a lot of items but once you get about 15 hours into the game you start to get enough items. Plus you get to go back and visit past areas to pick up important items you missed and to strengthen your characters. Maybe you have not played enough yet?

I like this game more then any Final Fantasy I have played with the exception of VII.


For Easy Money: Once you get the casino passport play poker at level 4 until you have about 40,000 coins. Exchange the coins for card starter sets and card packs until you can't carry any more. Trade those in and you can make a ton of gil.

[DragonSphere]

Hey, did anyone get those investment opportunity e-mails in the game yet? My brother said he has made a shit load of money off them...but I haven't received jack. And just now after reading a FAQ, it seems that many of them started way back on the Woglinde. :disturb:

[Infernal Mass]

i got one on the woglinde on the way to the awgs hangar, to pick up miyuki's m.w.s. she sent shion. It gave me 5 ether packs, and cut the price of all items at shops a little bit. The other one i did gave me some cash back and dropped the price of all awgs items. (too bad i had already spent alot of cash on weapons and upgrades before i got it).

I'm just sticking with the vector investments..or anything/anyone related to vector
.

[Infernal Mass]

i just now made it to the dock colony,The investments payed off again..they kicked me down a Dragon Skull for KOS-MOS. :shock:

It's the weapon she uses to shoot at the Gnosis Mother Ship, when she's standing on the escape pod right after the whole Woglinde event. It's a beam weapon..

Also the EVS for the U-TIC battleship has a crazy ass enemy on board. He's located in the room next to the one where JR's soilders were interogating that UTIC soilder for the card that opens up door 3. He just stands there when you walk in, you have to go up to him to fight. His AWGS is powerful wiped me up 3 straight times. I'm going to have to come back after leveling up some to beat him. Even my AWGS don't stand a chance against him. :shock:

[Decifer]

I just got this game last nite. My mom bought it for me when she when to the states for a big ass shopping spree. I only have one problem with this game...
the starting of this game is just like Suikoden III, i thinks its alright but i get really confused and lost in the story, i also feel like the game doesnt live up to all the hype but... after awile of playing i Start to like it more and more til i cant stop playing. This is what happened to Suikoden III and now Xenosaga. Its not a big problem just some wierd "Phase" i go through when i play a good RPG. p.s Same thing happened to Everquest ,lol im f**ked up.

[Infernal Mass]

has anyone completed the xenocard tournament.?.i lost in the last round last night.


DigiMortal
- :disturb: ..one little mistake costs me the game

[Darkness 4 Hire]

This game has a lot of potential. Much to my demise i had to stop playing it due to school work/ Wind Waker!!!

[DragonSphere]

Finally got that damn Erde Kaiser robot...which is totally sweet to watch. Just finished the Song of Nephilim so far, and am about to take another trip back to the EVS for some money...

[ssjtrunks13]

Looks like I'll get to enjoy this game much sooner than I thought. My younger brother got it and he's visiting this weekend. He's almost finished with the story part though he has no idea. Hopefully after he leaves this weekend he'll leave the game here for me and my other brother to check out.